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Apr 29, 2014 at 18:24 | history | edited | Brian Hennessy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 24, 2014 at 20:22 | comment | added | Affable Geek | Um, no. You lost me on your first sentence. The Book of Hebrews is a sermon addressed to Hebrew believers. That's pretty well documented in the church fathers. | |
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Mar 24, 2014 at 2:23 | comment | added | Brian Hennessy | That's fine Dan. Not sure how the voting works. But i appreciate your testing of a truth in true Berean style. One last thought. Consider that even the "grafting" terminology is just figurative speech when referring to a horticultural analogy. But even there Paul has us understand that we who are being included in Abraham's family of believers are also "olive branches." Wild branches, for sure, but not from some other family of tree. Blessings | |
Mar 24, 2014 at 1:24 | comment | added | curiousdannii♦ | Maybe 'adoption' is only there a few times, but the idea is there more, like the 'grafting' language of Romans 11. Anyway I don't want to continue debating here. I thinking this is eisegesis. Let the votes determine if your ideas are valid or not. | |
Mar 24, 2014 at 0:47 | comment | added | Brian Hennessy | Forgot to comment on the angels. Yes, that is true. But God is the "father" of the angels also, so He wouldn't be the "one" referred to in 2:11. If it is anyone other than Abraham it would be Adam. But again, we don't have to guess. Verse 16 informs us whose children we are. It is Abraham. | |
Mar 24, 2014 at 0:39 | comment | added | Brian Hennessy | The word "adoption" is used in the NT only five times (Rom.8:15,23; 9:24; Gal.4:5; Eph.1:5) And it only applies to our adoption as sons of God. Never as a metaphor for our inclusion into Abraham's family. If we aren't born into it how can it be said we are his seed? | |
Mar 23, 2014 at 22:51 | comment | added | curiousdannii♦ | When I said "become Hebrew" I meant be adopted into Abraham's family. The Bible uses the metaphor of adoption a lot. But that isn't what Hebrews 2 is about. It's what Galatians 4 is about, but not Hebrews 2. And it seems a lot of people didn't think Jesus was truly human - maybe they thought he was an angel (because of all the book says about angels) or maybe they thought he remained God but didn't become human. | |
Mar 23, 2014 at 22:46 | comment | added | Brian Hennessy | Believers can't "become Hebrew." We either are born of his seed or we are not. Don't need to prove Jesus was truly human. That was obvious. The point is that both Jesus and us share in the same flesh and blood -that's why we are "brethren." What is being revealed is that those who belong to Messiah are not only seed of Abraham, but the the chosen seed. That "you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise" (Gal 4:28). | |
Mar 23, 2014 at 21:53 | comment | added | curiousdannii♦ | The point of Hebrews 2 isn't that all believers must be or become Hebrew, but that Jesus was truly human. If we have the same father it is God, not Abraham! | |
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Mar 23, 2014 at 16:21 | history | answered | Brian Hennessy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |