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Jul 21 at 16:36 vote accept Lesley
Jul 21 at 16:36 comment added Lesley Just posted a link in my question above to an article from a Protestant perspective.
Jul 15 at 13:28 comment added SLM Theology re Mary. Perpetual virgin, they held a virgin in higher esteem than non-virgin (research vestal virgins). Jerome would invent the cousin theory to explain both young Mary and young Joseph as perpetual virgins, rather than theory from Infancy Gospel of James (old Joseph). Immaculate Conception, they believed baby got blood from mom, so mom needed pure blood (see Augustine link and John Damascus). Assumption, those in heaven have God's ear more than those on earth. It's all out there for anyone looking.
Jul 15 at 6:44 comment added Lesley SLM, no need to apologise. I'm simply looking for the manner in which the Catholic Church developed its theology regarding Mary.
Jul 15 at 1:44 comment added SLM Well, I don't go along with the stepping stones to their conclusions either. But you didn't want commentary on right or wrong. I looked through the link and saw many more stepping stones to the hyperveneration arguments for Mary. But sorry, don't want to argue whether anyone else see's them. My apologies.
Jul 14 at 18:54 comment added Lesley Thank you for the additional information.
Jul 14 at 18:43 comment added Lesley I can see how expressions like "advocate for Eve" and "the human race rescued by a virgin" can be taken as stepping-stones - but I can't go along with them! Only Christ Jesus could ever have rescued the human race. But we're not here to argue theology. I would appreciate more information on Augustine with regard to his influence on how the veneration of Mary developed. A link would suffice with reference to definitive quotes. Thank you.
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Jul 14 at 17:14 comment added SLM Benign form of veneration with veneration defined "honoring a saint". One could apply this definition to any of the apostles, as well as to Mary, plus many others through history. But now take a closer look at Irenaeus' words "advocate for Eve" or "the human race rescued by a virgin". These are the stepping-stones to what we now know of how veneration is applied to the mother of God. I'll try to expand the history through Augustine.
Jul 14 at 13:39 comment added Lesley I see the comparison between Eve and Mary but am unable to conclude that the words of Justin Martyr, Irenaeus or Tertullian equate to some "benign form of veneration". I understand why the views of Nestorius were rejected at the Council of Ephesus (AD 431). My interest is in the extent to which Augustine of Hippo influenced the thinking of the Church with regard to the veneration of Mary. I have read your last link but nothing about the writings of Augustine of Hippo.
Jul 13 at 19:33 history answered SLM CC BY-SA 4.0