Timeline for What is the biblical basis for the Holy Ghost revealing truth privately and personally in an absolute and unmistakable manner?
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| Mar 30 at 8:13 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @depperm "According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation" (v. 10), which is Jesus Christ. Paul laid the foundation 2000 years ago. "I have laid" is perfect tense, which is a present report of an action that has been completed in the past but has effects in the now. There is no future addition to the foundation that has been laid. If there was it would have been aorist tense. The buildings don't get judged until the storm comes and blows down everything not built on the rock, the foundation that Paul laid, Jesus Christ. | |
| Mar 29 at 14:53 | comment | added | depperm |
@MikeBorden who is the judge of the foundation though? v11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, (as many denominations make this claim, we have to look at buildings) The bible has clear examples of parts of the foundation being replaced (in that new apostles/prophets are mentioned/replaced/called, not that the initial/original apostles/prophets are no longer important).
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| Mar 29 at 14:17 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @depperm I think that if you read carefully it is not the foundation but the building on the foundation that is tested. And even more specifically that which is built on the one foundation. Whatever is built on a different foundation is not even in view because there is no other (legitimate) foundation. That is the whole point of the passage. | |
| Mar 29 at 13:48 | comment | added | depperm | @MikeBorden Agabus was a named prophet in the New Testament after Jesus, to me this shows prophets are still part of the gospel (apostles listened to him). Brand new/contradictory instruction is up for debate for most doctrine (even relying on the bible there are differing theologies). As apostles were replaced as they died for a time one would assume they were still important not that the original 12 were the foundation and only them. 1 Cor 3 goes on to say foundations/buildings will be tested to see who survives (so even with this, one can't conclusively say wrong foundation yet-if it is) | |
| Mar 29 at 13:36 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @depperm Did Agabus introduce new doctrine or merely foretell the future by the Spirit? There is no certainty that Jude (50-110) was written prior to Revelation (68-96). Additional instruction is not the same as brand new, contradictory instruction. In Acts 17 they examined what was already written to test what Paul was saying. New Testament prophesy, ala 1 Cor. 14, is not the same as Eph. 2:19-20 which speaks of an already built foundation, not a being-built foundation. No man can lay a foundation other than the one already laid (1 Cor. 3:10-11). | |
| Mar 29 at 11:11 | comment | added | depperm |
John the Baptist, last of the Old Testament style prophet, except Agabus? Nothing from John's statement supports your previous statement. Using Jude reference, doesn't that discount the book of Revelation as it is 'after'. Doesn't Acts 17, encourage receiving additional instruction from the Lord? No where in the bible does it say there will be no more prophets, opposite in Eph 2:19-20
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| Mar 24 at 20:26 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @Mark I've not read that book but I have no issue with modern day dreams and visions or even 'audible' hearings so long as they don't contradict what is written. | |
| Mar 24 at 20:23 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @Mark I believe that Old testament prophecy and New testament prophecy are not exactly the same. The former is how it was written and the latter is how the written is expounded. | |
| Mar 24 at 13:35 | comment | added | user61679 | In other words, what would you have to say about this book? | |
| Mar 24 at 0:12 | comment | added | user61679 | Are you a cessationist or continuationist with respect to the gift of prophecy? | |
| Mar 23 at 21:38 | history | answered | Mike Borden | CC BY-SA 4.0 |