Timeline for What are rebuttals to the argument that Christians only worship God to give their lives meaning?
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| Feb 18 at 13:04 | comment | added | Andrew Shanks | IT really does not matter if everyone agrees, as long as it is true. If blind people go into an art gallery and say they cannot see any beauty in the exhibits then why should that make any difference to the opinions of those who can see? It is not that something is eternal, it is that someone is eternal, and that someone is the Creator God, infinite in power. Acceptable levels of proof differ between different disciplines.. maths proof is not required in the vast majority of our lives nor in the vast majority of scientific study let alone the humanities. | |
| Feb 16 at 20:56 | comment | added | Offirmo | @AndrewShanks the fact sth exists proves that there is "being" and something is eternal. Everyone agrees up to this point. More than that (eternal thing is a benevolent person) is not automatic. We Christians believe bc He interacted with us and gave sufficient demonstration of godly powers (predicting the future, resurrecting ppl) but guess what? We could also be in a simulation (like the Sims) and our "handler/admin" may be a fallible creature incorrectly re-enacting some faith they themselves learnt. Maybe we're getting "2nd hand revelation"? You can't know. | |
| Feb 16 at 19:22 | comment | added | Brondahl | @AndrewShanks It's ironic that you would appeal to Descartes, given that even a cursory examination of the discourse around Descartes work will inform you that he in fact failed to prove either of those claims. The Malicious Demon was much stronger than he realised and his proofs fail to defeat it. You (and we all) believe that we each exist (and operating under such a belief is the only sane thing to do), but we cannot know if for true absolute certainty. | |
| Feb 16 at 10:07 | comment | added | Andrew Shanks | Thanks for your opinion.. but I shall stick with what I have said. The mere fact anything exists at all is proof of God's existence and creative power. Descartes was right, two things are certain, I exist and God exists. | |
| Feb 16 at 7:36 | comment | added | Offirmo | Hi fellow truth seeker, you may want to tone down your "objective facts with many proofs". Unless you have 100% control and knowledge, there are no "objective fact with many proofs". You can have some proofs in Math where you control all the setting, but not in real life: that's why Faith is a virtue! For all you know you may be in a computer simulation, or hallucinating in a medical ward. Beware! | |
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| Feb 14 at 7:45 | history | answered | Andrew Shanks | CC BY-SA 4.0 |