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Apr
6
comment Ancient nations in a young earth
... same ballpark. Considering the drastic revisions that theories about dates have undergone at one time or another, I don't think any serious archaeologist would claim that he can date an artifact to March 17, 2192 BC, at 3:57 pm.
Apr
6
comment Ancient nations in a young earth
... historical records, of which the Bible is one. And of course, scholars debate exactly how to fit dates from one historical document to another as ancient people did not use our modern calendar. So suppose using one set of data archaeologist A dates an event to somewhere between 2000 BC and 1800 BC, and archaeologist B dates it to 1900 BC to 1600 BC. If we compare the earliest possible date from A to the latest possible date from B, sure, they contradict. So what? That sort of thing happens all the time, in archaeology and in many other subjects. The ranges overlap and they're in the ...
Apr
6
comment Ancient nations in a young earth
@thedarkwanderer Umm, no. If you're not just trolling: Dating of events in ancient times or of ancient artifacts is far, far from an exact science. Two historians can look at the same artifact and one say it is from 2000 BC and the other say, with equal authority and equally good evidence, that it is from 1800 BC. There are many, many such debates among scholars of antiquity. For example, as I write this there is some serious re-examination going on of dates in early Egyptian history. Of course a major source of information about ancient events is surviving ...
Mar
17
comment Have Archaeologists recovered pieces of Noah's Ark?
@Reluctant_Linux_User Hmm, but you seem to be saying, "If we start with the assumption that the Biblical account could not have come from sources older than EoG, then we conclude that it must have come from EoG or later sources." Well, of course. But that's the whole question, isn't it? The Biblical literalist says that Moses used older sources, the anti-literalist says he used later sources. The literalist says that perhaps EoG is a corruption of Genesis; the anti-literalist says Genesis is a corrupt of EoG. What evidence do you have to prove that the anti-literalist position is correct?
Mar
16
comment Have Archaeologists recovered pieces of Noah's Ark?
... Almost all evangelical scholars that I've read theorize that Moses had access to written records passed down from Noah.
Mar
16
comment Have Archaeologists recovered pieces of Noah's Ark?
You must suppose that Moses either, (a) wrote Genesis based on existing source material, or (b) made the whole thing up. Of course Jews and Christians would say (a). You're apparently saying (a) also: that he got the flood story from the Epic of Gilgamesh and other ancient flood stories. But once you concede that he didn't make the story up but got it from older sources, how do you know that he got it from the Epic of Gilgamesh? There are many flood stories in the world. Moses might have gotten it from a source older than Gilgamesh which does not survive outside the Bible. ...
Jan
29
comment How do people who reject transubstantiation interpret these verses?
Afterthought a year later: As you quote above, Jesus said, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." So do people who believe that Jesus was speaking literally about his body and blood therefore believe that once you participate in the Eucharist, you will literally never be hungry again, and thus will never need to eat ever again? I don't know of anyone who takes that part literally. He MUST mean "will never hunger for spiritual fulfillment", not literal food.
Jan
20
comment How can these inconsistencies about Jesus' tomb be explained?
Yes, it's true that Mark's statement that they saw a "young man" who is not identified as an angel (in Mark, that is) is a valid, at least apparent inconsistency. Was Mark trying to play down the angelic nature of this person for some reason? It seems implausible that he could have been talking about someone other than the angels that the other writers report. Etc. Christians have debated this point for centuries.
Jan
20
comment How can these inconsistencies about Jesus' tomb be explained?
... that the president was the only speaker, but that conclusion is not justified by the text. If I read both stories, I'd pretty much assume that the first writer mentioned the president's speech because he thought that was the most important, or the most relevant to some larger story. And by the way, this example is far from hypothetical. It happens all the time. Very, very rarely does a news story list all the speakers at a political event or give a number.
Jan
20
comment How can these inconsistencies about Jesus' tomb be explained?
Okay, let me use a more common example. Suppose you read a news story about a political event, and it said, "The president attended this rally and he gave a speech where he said ..." That's the only speaker they mention. Another news story says that there were 4 speakers. Would you say that these stories contradict because the first only mentions one speaker while the second specifically says there were 4? I would think that as long as the first does not say that there was only one speaker, this is not a contradiction. Yes, someone who read only the first story might leap to the conclusion ...
Jan
20
comment How can these inconsistencies about Jesus' tomb be explained?
@fredsbendtheGrinch If one account said that there were angels in the tomb and another didn't mention angels at all, I could see your point. But given that someone says there were angels, I don't see why failing to mention how many would be startling. If someone told me, "Today the president of the United States came to my house to ask my opinion about world affairs!", I wouldn't consider it shocking that he failed to mention that the vice president was there too.
Dec
29
comment Why don't we dance?
@MarcinSanecki Given the fact that the statement about Michal's childlessness comes immediately after David's reply to her attack on his behavior, it seems plausible to read this as a judgment from God. If that's the case, I'd assume that there was more going on here than just one disagreement over proper forms of worship, I wouldn't expect God to judge someone just for having one minor misunderstanding. But who am I to judge God? It's also possible that the juxtaposition is just coincidence. That this is just a statement of fact, having nothing to do with the previous sentence.
Dec
29
comment Is a Catholic annulment divorce in a Catholic way?
"Do they believe non-Catholics can be saved without confession to their priests?" This is a totally new question, not particularly related to your question about annulment. You should post this as a new question to keep the forum reasonably clean.
Nov
19
comment What is the scientific effectiveness of “street preaching” as a method of evangelization?
Did you read the first sentence of this post before replying?
Nov
17
comment How did all the animals fit into Noah's ark?
@fredsbend Quite true. The ideal would be to take young adult -- the equivalent of human teenagers -- so you'd have young, vigorous, fertilse specimens to release after the flood, and so they'd take less room. This would save a lot of space for the very large animals like elephants, and especially for the giant reptiles like sauropods, who continue to grow throughout their lives.
Oct
29
comment Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
@MarcGravell Very late follow up: Of course if the government provides a reasonable due process to change a bad law, a Christian -- or I'd say any responsible citizen, but we're talking Christians here -- should try to use that due process. If you can change the law through a public relations campaign to convince the majority to vote against it, surely that is better than armed rebellion. But in many cases governments don't allow a vote, or the system is rigged. Or maybe even the majority support an evil law. But I'm giving my own opinion here, I can't give a Bible reference for this.
Oct
16
comment What is the earliest non-Judeo-Christian reference to Jesus?
Note that while #1 is pretty much all that the writer had to say about Jesus, #2 and #3 are excerpts from much longer discussions in the original. Not faulting curiousdanii here, Pliny especially had a fairly extensive discussion. Just want to emphasize that the sentence or two quoted is not the entire discussion.
Oct
16
comment Why did Ananias die?
... SOME indication that Peter was, in fact, wrong. The plain reading is that Peter's statement is true.
Oct
16
comment Why did Ananias die?
Well, I suppose. Or (d) he died of a sudden heart attack that was a complete coincidence and had nothing to do with the real estate deal. Or (e) Peter had poisoned him. Or (f) Of course non-Christians would say that the text is inaccurate or misleading in one way or another. But if we take the text to be an accurate account of what happened, we have Peter's statement that Ananias told this lie, so if Ananias made no such claim than Peter is lying or mistaken. Such an interpretation would be highly strained. Surely if that was what the writer intended to convey, he would have included ...
Oct
16
comment What is considered chaste behaviour from a Catholic perspective?
Tangential note: The reason that Protestants don't "remember" the story of Tobias is because we do not have the book of Tobias in our Bible, so most Protestants have never read it.