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Jan
3
asked Does the Bible ever say that the Ark of the Covenant flew or levitated?
Jan
3
answered The Cost of Salvation
Jan
3
answered Relativism and salvation
Jan
3
answered What are the various types of laws that govern our world and lives?
Dec
18
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
... Canada and the United States are clearly two different countries. The fact that there are some number of people whose citizenship is not clear for technical legal reasons, or that there are pieces of land along the border which both countries claim, does not mean that they are really the same country or that it is meaningless to ask whether they are two countries or one, or that someone who is not an expert on geography would have no idea what you mean when you say "Canada".
Dec
18
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
The difference between a plant and an animal is obvious to the average lay person for the vast majority of cases that they encounter in normal life. Yes, there are non-obvious cases, like microscopic creatures. But if you asked the average person on the street, "Do you know the difference between a plant and an animal?", I'm sure 90+% would say, "Well, duh, of course." Like, there is a clear difference between the letter "k" and the letter "t", but OF COURSE there are times when someone's handwriting is bad or someone uses an obscure font and I have trouble telling them apart. ...
Dec
17
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
RE interpretation of "death" in Genesis: I don't know about self-evident, but I believe that my original assertion -- that nowhere does the OT refer to plants as "alive" -- is correct. While I don't dispute the distinction between physical death and spiritual death -- that's pretty routine Christian theology -- I don't think that's "self-evident".
Dec
17
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
... cases does not make a rule invalid.
Dec
17
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
You don't think the average lay person can tell a plant from an animal? It seems to me that the difference is far more obvious to the lay person looking at things like, Does it walk around? Does it appear to respond when I try to touch it or talk to it? etc, then it does to a biologist examining things at the cellular level. I can't imagine anyone saying that he thinks a mushroom is an animal. A venus fly trap is certainly strange but I've never heard someone suggest it is an animal, just a strange plant. Microscopic organisms could be more mysterious, but the existence of non-obvious ...
Dec
16
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
Not necessarily. The Bible never speaks of plants as being "alive". The highest division of living things in modern biology is between the "animal kingdom" and the "plant kingdom". Even though there are many similarities at the cellular level, clearly the kind of life that plants have is very different from the kind of life that animals have. A light bulb and a computer both use electricity, but this doesn't mean that we can't distinguish them. I doubt that a plant has consciousness or a soul, and that would seem to be the relevant point.
Dec
16
comment Is parent disaproval a Biblical reason why two believers could not marry
... moral code or law. I think every country has laws against stealing. But if a crazed maniac takes a bunch of people hostage and threatens to kill them all, and then in a moment of carelessness he puts down his gun and you have a chance to grab it, would anyone seriously say that it would be wrong for you to take his gun because that would be "stealing"? Etc etc, a creative person can easily come up with all sorts of extreme or odd cases where breaking a law would be a positive good, even a law generally recognized as good.
Dec
16
comment Is parent disaproval a Biblical reason why two believers could not marry
Malachi: I agree, I tried to say something of that sort above, maybe I wasn't clear. There are several places in the Bible that instruct believers to obey some authority -- children to parents, wives to husbands, citizens to government, etc. But we are also told "we must obey God rather than men". If, say, your parents tell you to help them murder someone, I think the law against murder would supersede the law against obeying parents. Anti-Christians like to jump on these sort of things: The Bible says to do X but what about this extreme situation? But surely this issue exists in any ...
Dec
13
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
The discussion about the soul dying and about death and sleep is really off on another topic. I don't agree with the poster but I don't want to digress further. But his final couple of paragraphs around Gen 3:22 are highly relevant and a good point.
Dec
13
comment If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
@DavidStratton I don't wish to be rude, but just because you can't think of a scripture passage off the top of your head that addresses someone's question doesn't mean that there is no such passage and the question should be closed. How do you know that others will not think of a passage that did not occur to you? In this case, I can think of several at least potentially relevant passages. "I don't know the answer" is not at all the same thing as "The question is unanswerable."
Dec
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answered If Adam and Eve were exempt from death, why did they need to eat?
Dec
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answered Is parent disaproval a Biblical reason why two believers could not marry
Dec
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comment Is parent disaproval a Biblical reason why two believers could not marry
@DavidStratton To put it bluntly, I completely disagree with your post at that link. I've add a long rambling set of comments there. :-)
Dec
13
comment Do any Christian denominations believe in a duality rather than a trinity?
Note that in the context of the question, there's a big difference between Dualism -- the idea that God and Satan are equal but opposite, and the duality that I think the questioner is asking about. I think he's driving more at a theory that only two of the traditional three persons of the Trinity are real, like a belief that Father and Holy Spirit are God but Jesus was just an ordinary man.
Dec
11
revised Are the Gospels considered anonymous by historians only or by the Catholic Church also?
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Dec
11
comment Are the Gospels considered anonymous by historians only or by the Catholic Church also?
Okay, perhaps I should have clarified. I don't think the difference here is between what "historians" say, what the Catholic Church says, and what Protestants say. The difference is between theologically conservative Catholics and Protestants and some historians on one side, and theologically liberal Catholics and Protestants and some historians on the other side.