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May
26
comment Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
@Marc Hmm. If someone says, "I support laws limiting emissions from power plants because I am an environmentalist," is that an environmentalist position, or a personal position? Is it necessary for all the environmentalists in the world to agree about this particular law for it to be legitimate to call it an "environmentalist position"?
May
26
comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
@Marc Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot ... yes, government has been a huge source of evil in the world.
May
25
comment Was Christ the man created?
I think the fully God/fully man is much less a paradox than many people make out. I am 100% American and 100% a father. I am 100% a Christian and 100% a college graduate. Etc. There is nothing amazing about this as long as the attributes are not contradictory. Of course we generally think of being God and being man as being incompatible, but that's the point: in Jesus case, it wasn't.
May
25
comment Why didn't Jesus allow demons to say he was God?
I've often wondered about this point myself. Good answer, I think you're probably right.
May
25
answered What are the 4 evangelists' inconsistencies saying about level of accuracy in NT?
May
25
answered Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
May
25
comment Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
... To say that a small elite of government officials can make laws and Christians aren't allowed to object unless we have 100% unanimity, well, I just don't see any basis for that. In any case, I think that each person is responsible for his own actions. Immoral and unjust acts are not made good and just because a majority approved of them, nor is right made wrong because the majority were afraid to take a stand.
May
25
comment Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
@Marc There are, of course, difficult and hazy cases. But there are very clear cases. An easy example is someone living in Nazi Germany faced with laws requiring him to turn in Jews so they could be shipped off to death camps: Surely defying such a law is the good and right thing to do. To take a ridiculous opposite extreme, if someone assassinated the president because he used a vulgar word in a speech, I'd say that is out of proportion to the offense. To say there is no single official Christian view ... so what? Governments pass laws even though 100% of the people don't agree. ...
May
25
comment Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
... It surely depends on the details of the circumstances. What is the nature of the law? What will happen? If Moses had defied Pharoah's oppression of the Jews and then quietly accepted Pharoah's judgement, the likely result is that he would have been thrown in prison or killed and the Jews would have remained slaves. If Daniel had prayed in secret, he could have escaped punishment but would have had no impact on the nation. I think we have to use wisdom and intelligence and examine each case.
May
25
comment Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
@Caleb In some cases in the Bible, like Daniel and Shadrach & Friends, believers disobeyed an immoral law, made no secret of their disobedience, and submitted to the legal penalties. In other cases, like Moses, they openly rebelled against the authorities. In yet others, like Ehud, they acted in secret. (In some cases we could debate whether the Bible is approving of their actions or simply reporting what happenned.) So I don't think there's a simple answer: When faced with an immoral or unjust law, the Christian should always do X, Y, and Z. ...
May
25
comment Is there a biblical basis/justification for requiring a pastor be educated?
My previous post was supposed to say "does NOT REQUIRE". Leaving out a "not" rather changes the meaning of the sentence.
May
23
answered Are Christians bound to the laws of their country?
May
23
comment Does the Bible support slavery and (White) Superiority in the context of American Slavery?
@TRiG I don't see where the page that you cite says that Wilberforce opposed abolition, nor am I aware of any other source saying such a thing. Yes, Wilberforce first step was to end the slave trade, as opposed to freeing existing slaves. I don't claim to be an expert on Wilberforce, but I always assumed that was a tactical decision: the slave owners were too politically powerful for him to defeat them in one blow. He had to work up to it in steps.
May
23
comment Does the Bible support slavery and (White) Superiority in the context of American Slavery?
... Every contemporary account of the end of slavery throughout the world that I've read said it was ended by social, religious, and political activism. If you have some documentation of large numbers of slave owners giving up their slaves for economic reasons, I'd be interested in seeing it.
May
23
comment Does the Bible support slavery and (White) Superiority in the context of American Slavery?
@TRG Umm, in the United States, slavery was ended by the Civil War, not by socio-economic forces. The South fought to keep their slaves -- literally. If they were losing money on the deal, apparently they didn't care. In Britain slavery was ended by an act of Parliament. If the slave owners were voluntarily freeing their slaves because the institution had become unprofitable, why did they need a law? ...
May
23
comment Is there a biblical basis/justification for requiring a pastor be educated?
@Jas3.1 Please understand that I am not deprecating education in general or seminary education in particular. What I said was that the Bible does REQUIRE formal education for leadership in the church. I stand by that. I don't doubt that personal discipleship by Jesus himself was better than any seminary degree. But that wasn't the question. Try applying to be a pastor at a church that has education requirements, and tell them that you met this requirement because your neighbor Bob, who is a very intelligent and committed Christian, taught you everything he knows.
May
22
comment Does the doctrine of Sola Scriptura prohibit the use of empirical information to understand the bible?
I can't imagine someone saying that scripture is literally the only possible source of truth. To take an extreme example, if I want to know if it's raining outside, I don't consult scripture: I look out the window. As Jas3.1 says, an advocate of Sola Scriptura would say that anything that contradicts scripture must be false. Where it gets debatable is on something claiming to be revelation from God outside of scripture: some say that the Bible is the complete revelation of God, others would allow for additional revelation.
May
22
answered Is there a biblical basis/justification for requiring a pastor be educated?
May
22
comment Did Adam and Eve's Progeny Commit Incest?
@Steely My point was that these roles would not have been perceived in the same way.
May
18
comment What is the correlation between cosmic energy and Christianity?
Ditto Flimzy. I suspect your pastor was making some sort of metaphor. Without knowing just what metaphor he was trying to spin, it's impossible to answer the question. It's like saying, My math teacher said that cosines are like a tomato. What did he mean by this?