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Jun
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answered What is the point of Jesus' crucifixion?
Jun
2
answered When is it too late to ask for salvation?
Jun
2
answered Is “Mormon” a disrespectful term?
Jun
2
comment Who was Tychicus?
There are a lot of names that Paul throws out in his letters with little information. I've often wondered who these people were and what they did. Maybe in a few cases there are other historical documents that say something about them, but usually not. Sometimes I wonder if God didn't just decide that these people deserved to be memorialized by being mentioned in the Bible. :-)
Jun
2
comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
... If the greatest good that you can credit governments with is that some governments mitigate the evil that other governments do so they STOP enslaving and murdering innocent people, that's not exactly a rousing endorsement of government as an institution.
Jun
2
comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
... give you a net plus, it just stops the accumulation of minuses. Likewise the point of the Magna Carta was to stop the abuses of the king. The governments of the Allies stopped the Nazis after they had killed 25 million people. If they had done nothing, the Nazis would no doubt have killed more. But the total score for Nazis plus Allies is still minus 25 million. ...
Jun
2
comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
Well, we're into politics here and not Christianity. So you're saying your problem with my statement is that you believe that governments do more good than harm? I don't know exactly how you'd measure that. Nazi Germany built the first modern highways. How many feet of road does it take to outweigh one murder? I certainly approve of the Allies fighting Germany in WW2 and Lincoln freeing the slaves, but those actions wouldn't have been necessary if other governments had not done great evil. The fact that one government managed to stop the evil that another government was doing doesn't give ...
Jun
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comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
@Bruce Well, this is christianity.stackexchange.com, not politics.stackexchange.com, so ... Anyway, I didn't say government is always evil or inherently evil. Quite the contrary I began by saying that it can do good. But I would think it's a simple, undeniable fact that governments often do evil, from the extremes of the Nazi Holocaust, the Gulag, etc, to the little crimes like taxing the poor to subsidize huge corporations. Do you think such things are trivialities that shouldn't concern us? Well, there's no factual basis on which to say how important they are.
May
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awarded  Enlightened
May
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awarded  Nice Answer
May
29
comment What is the biblical basis for restitution?
Excellent answer! Trivial point: You don't know that Zaccheus DIDN'T keep sufficient records. The Romans were very bureaucratic, so as the taxes were collected for Rome he might well have kept detailed records. Would he have had columns for "Actual tax due", "Tax I really collected", and "Difference = amount I stole"? Maybe not. But he might have kept records for the Romans of what he claimed to have collected and separate records for himself of what he actually collected. The idea of "two sets of books" has been around for a while. Not an important point, just chatting.
May
29
comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
BTW, A very wise man, who calls himself MarcGravell, posted on another thread, "Please see the plural in Hawking's quote. Presumably you agree with him in all but one case? 99.9% agreement yet you object with his sentiment?" So if I may apply his words here, "Please see the plural 'governments' in my quote. You concede that many governments have done evil things, but you object to the sentiment that government can be a force for evil?"
May
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comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
@Marc The original question was whether Christians should get involved in government. I said that Christians should attempt to influence government because it can be a source of good or a source of evil. I'm not sure how you got from "Christians should be involved in government to prevent it from doing evil" to "government should be abolished and replaced with anarchy".
May
29
comment Was Christ the man created?
@Affable I'm certainly not saying that I think man can become God! I don't disagree with anything in your last post. Ah well, it was just an abstract comment, i don't want to argue it because i don't think it leads anywhere.
May
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comment What are the 4 evangelists' inconsistencies saying about level of accuracy in NT?
My point about quotes and ellipses is that we do not know if the Gospel writers were quoting Jesus word-for-word or paraphrasing what he said, and likewise we do not know if Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy word-for-word or paraphrasing. If either is paraphrasing, then differences in wording, as long as they do not change the meaning, are not a misquote, but simply the nature of paraphrasing. My point about leaving out "Her O Israel" is that it is not a misquote, even by the most strict of literal standards, to not quote the sentence preceding the one that you quote. You have to start somewhere.
May
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comment Which God do Muslims pray to according to Catholic, Orthodox and main-stream Protestant tradition?
@TRiG Sure. Suppose you're trying to identify a person. If you mis-spell his name but describe him correctly, give his correct occupation, etc, then anyone who knows him would likely still know who you're talking about. Say you also get his address wrong. And you say he's 6'2" and has black hair when he's really 5'4" and blond. At some point your description is far enough off that we'd be unsure if you're talking about the same person. Further still and we'd say no, he has a similar name but that's not him.
May
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answered Which God do Muslims pray to according to Catholic, Orthodox and main-stream Protestant tradition?
May
26
comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
... The Spanish Inquisition killed 3000 to 4000 people over the course of 350+ years. That's horrible, of course, but Stalin would have been disappointed if a DAY went by in which he killed only 4000 people. No murders that can be pinned on a religious group begin to compare with what governments have done. The Ku Klux Klan killed about 1500 people. Amateurs.
May
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comment Does a Christian have a responsibility to participate in government?
@Marc Well, we're off on a tangent here. But have governments ever done any good? Of course. But they've also done a lot of evil. Hitler's government killed about 25 million people. Stalin's killed 22 million. Mao's killed 50 million. Pol Pot's killed 2 million. (Which doesn't sound like as good a score as the others, but remember he only had 8 million to start with, as a percentage of a nation's population I think he's #1.) I don't know of any force in the world that has committed as many murders as governments. I don't have statistics for organized crime but I doubt it comes close. ...
May
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comment Was Christ the man created?
@Affable A creature can't be 100% dog and 100% cat because they are genetically different. Perhaps one could create a hybrid that would be 50% dog and 50% cat, but dogs and cats are mutually contradictory so you can't be all of each. But "American" and "father" are not mutually contradictory: they are different, unrelated attributes. If Christ was both God and man in that sense, then there's no paradox. I don't think that's dualism.