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Orthodox Christian, g33k, ham radio operator, musician, etc. This profile does not reflect my real age ;)


Mar
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reviewed Close What is the key scriptural justification for the existence of a traditional afterlife?
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reviewed Close How did God's morality not change between OT and NT times?
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reviewed Close What is meant by a new heaven and new earth?
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reviewed Close Know any Bible verses on 'faith,' 'knowledge' or what it means to 'believe'?
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reviewed Close Divorce because of sexual immorality
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reviewed Close What does the Bible teach/say about luck?
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reviewed Close Why are we given details about what the descendants of Cain did? Is there special significance to these details?
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reviewed Close Why did God hide away the fact that He had the Son in the Old Testament times?
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reviewed Close Why does Jesus say “Why have you forsaken me?”
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reviewed Close What are the rules for inheritance for women?
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reviewed Close How do Mormon missionaries learn foreign languages so quickly?
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29
reviewed Close Why does a clever Satan fight with God even though he knows he will lose?
Mar
29
reviewed Approve suggested edit on What does it mean to say an original Greek manuscript did not survive?
Mar
29
comment Can you give air-kisses to icons in the Eastern Orthodox church instead of physical kisses?
@Anonymous I would be surprised if any references existed for this. It concerns practice that likely is not addressed in any official statements.
Mar
28
comment Can you give air-kisses to icons in the Eastern Orthodox church instead of physical kisses?
We have some ladies who just Windex the icons framed in glass after the service to clean off the lipstick. Most folks do actually kiss them, but some also air-kiss, too. No one minds which is done in most cases, and I've done both.
Mar
21
comment What are the primary differences and implications of a propitiatory view of the atonement versus an expiatory view?
Nope, I'm open to answers from other perspectives also, hence why I awarded the bounty. @svidgen did a great job
Mar
21
comment What are the primary differences and implications of a propitiatory view of the atonement versus an expiatory view?
I agree that they're trying to describe the same ineffable reality. However, the explanation has shifted significantly since the 11th century, and often Chrysostom is read through 21st century eyes and much is eisegeted into his context that wasn't there. We can use the same words and mean different things entirely. I'm hoping an answer addresses that from a historical perspective. I need to create a ecclesiastical-history tag to show I want a breadth of perspective from history :P But your answer is very good and an interesting perspective. I hope to see even more perspectives also.
Mar
21
comment What are the primary differences and implications of a propitiatory view of the atonement versus an expiatory view?
But I won't hold anyone to that. I've already read a great book on it. I was hoping to hear a different perspective, and you and Mike have both provided those, which is great.
Mar
21
comment What are the primary differences and implications of a propitiatory view of the atonement versus an expiatory view?
@svidgen I was hoping for an answer to address the underlying philosophical issues like Necessity (ἀνάγκη), the fact that much of Western soteriological ideology doesn't appear in the Church until the 11th century (esp. satisfaction theories), and the differences between the two views if taken alone. I don't think it's as simple as 'softening up' - I think it has changed a lot over the past 1000+ years because of the influence of Greek philosophy in the West.
Mar
21
comment What are the primary differences and implications of a propitiatory view of the atonement versus an expiatory view?
@svidgen very interesting. Your answer essentially makes the point that they are complementary and cites some excellent sources for saying so. I was hoping for sources covering a broader time frame in Church history and explaining the implications of each more (and explaining each of them, your answer assumes the reader already knows what each is and the implications of each), but your answer is very good and has earned my upvote and bounty.