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I have heard two explanations for this. I tend to think the second one is much more sound in the context given but I will offer them both for reference. First of all, the passage in question is 1 Corinthians 14:34. The first explanation I've heard is that at the time, most women were poorly educated and had a difficult time participating in the discussions ...


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This is a question on which Christians disagree among themselves. Even those who hold the Bible as a sole source of authority reach contradictory conclusions on the matter. On the side of not permitting women pastors, the main passage is 1 Timothy 2:12-14: But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but remain quiet. For it was ...


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I do not think the NIV does the original Greek justice in this case. The English Standard Version (a respected relatively new essentially literal translation) renders the verse this way: 7 Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of ...


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Order, Authority and Peace Would you ever dare to mention that the Holy Spirit is subject to the authority and/or control of a Man? If you cannot fathom that the Holy Spirit would ever be subjected to man then you do not understand order and peace. 1 Corinthians 14:32-33 NIV 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 ...


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Well, so the big hidden question here is "what comprises an LDS sunday service?". A related question covers some of this, so I'll just summarize. In your average "Sacrament meeting", you'll typically have: 1 who presides at the meeting 1 who conducts the meeting (may be the same as the one presiding) 1 who leads the music 1 who plays the piano/organ 2+ ...


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It is easy to take a few verses and try to draw a conclusion about women being inferior, but there are so many verses that run counter to this common understanding. We start near the beginning of the Bible: The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." (NIV, Genesis 2:18) The Hebrew word for ...


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1Timothy 2:12-14 (NASB) says pretty clearly that women shouldn't be pastors: 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.


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The word for "help meet" means more than just a helper. She was to be his counterpart. This is not limited to just man's ministry, but to everything in his life. She was not to be seen as lesser, or just a helper, but as his divinely appointed co-equal complement. This quote I believe explains it better. God Himself gave Adam a companion. He provided “an ...


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This article provides a good summary of the historical and current practices within Christianity regarding head coverings. Basically for large portions of Christianity wearing some kind of head covering before the 20th century was the norm, even for Protestants: Among the Protestant reformers, Martin Luther's wife, Katherine, wore a headcovering in ...


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Your question can be asked using the theological terms of complementarianism and egalitarianism. The crux of the question is this - Did God make all humans the same or did He give each "separate but equal" roles to uniquely fill within the church? This, like most real issues of substance, is not one where a single proof verse can answer it. (Although, ...


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The LDS website gives a very succinct answer to this: In weekly worship services and classes, women preach sermons, offer prayers in behalf of the congregation, and teach adults and children. They may also serve as missionaries and as presidents of the Relief Society, Young Women, and Primary organizations. Women participate in councils that ...


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A friend of mine (an Anglican priest) recently preached a sermon in my church about the epistles and how we should read them. He told us of how he had recently found a letter from his father (who had died some years before) in an old book. The letter, he said, was full of good advice about all kinds of things. My friend said that most of it remained good ...


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The women all died. That was about a thousand years ago, after all. When the edict went out, the ruling was that married men would no longer be ordained, not that the priests who were married would get rid of their wives. Eventually, this meant that all of the women married to priests would either become widows or the priests would become widowers. Below ...


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I think a better way to word your question is "What traditions hold the most conservative view of 1 Corinthians 11. If any tradition or denomination stands by what you are saying, they would most certainly derive the Biblical basis from this passage: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; ...


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Here are some verses that were often referred to in discussions of ordination of women among ELCA Lutherans. 1) Women first at tomb I know a female ELCA Lutheran pastor who said she felt her call to be pastor solidify after reading the Gospels and seeing that women who came to the tomb were the first evangelists of a resurrected Christ. 2) No male/female ...


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It seems that some of the most popular verses to oppose this are Galatians 3:28, Acts 10:34, and Mark 16:15. (Gal 3:28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (Act 10:34) Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no ...


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(Full disclosure, I am an Anglican / Episcopalian. I am 100% behind a very, very strong view of Scriptural authority, though I believe in the case of female priests, the old interpretation is not really in line with what Paul or God wrote. As such, I think it's totally okay to have a female priest- but for Scriptural reasons. ) 1. There is a scriptural case ...


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The EFCA leaves a large part of this to the local congregation. Very much like some of the Baptist denominations that prefer terminology other than a "denomination," the E-Free congregations are autonomous and able to internally govern themselves mostly as they wish. I am now in a different denomination, but I grew up in a church that moved into the E-Free ...


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Error: When I wrote this up I, I had misread the question and focused my answer on the office of Deacon. I will need to revise this to focus on the office of Elder. It won't be substantially different but there are a few extra considerations. There is not a very clear answer to this question, but the statement on the CBE seems to beyond the scope of ...


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Willow Creek has held an egalitarian stance about women in leadership since their inception. Yesterday Lynne Hybels reposted the chapter in the book mentioned above on her blog. The link is below. I attended Willow for two years in the 1990s and benefitted greatly from the women on the teaching team and the stellar leadership of the mixed-gender elder board. ...


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Since you asked "How have nominations (or other church movements) that have held scripture forbids female pastors responded to the general blanket proscription which seems to be found in this verse?" I'll answer that only, with the disclaimer that I'm neither saying that women should or should not preach. I have my belief on the subject, but my belief is ...


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It is one thing to answer these questions in the tongue and lingo of the Bible; it is a whole new universe trying to bring this home to our everyday life. I will try to keep this short and simple. Does the Bible teach elsewhere that this helper role should be a fundamental aspect of being a Christian wife today? Yes… somewhere in Ephesians 5 (as ...


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The verse I always was referred to on this subject is I Corinthians 14:34-35 (NLT) 34 Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says. 35 If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings. ...


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It seems that your question is a settled part of Church History, from David Calhoun's document on this subject, entitled  Reformation & Modern Church History: Knox said women should not rule over men. That was a kind of call for revolution. People could read between the lines and realize that what John Knox really wanted was for men in the two ...


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Transistor I feel you. I think oftentimes the answer is not clear but many Christians take comfort in believing all of their church's teachings and their apologists' arguments are valid. When I ask questions about the premises or certain details which seem to be contradictory I am often told not that the answer isn't really known or that the answerer ...


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This is only an indirect answer to part of your question, but I get the feeling that the non-historical part of this apologetic is not being expressed in a satisfying manner, either in your question or in the existing answer. (I just wrote a very long sentence to try and explain it better, but figured that would not help. Let's try by analogy): Today ...


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Most of today's conservative churches interpret these passages as a prohibition on women preaching to men. Far from being a prohibition on women ever giving sermons, women are not merely allowed but actually commanded to teach younger women: The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much ...


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This appears to be a Jewish tradition rather than any precept of God, since the only Biblical reference I can find is in Paul's letter to Timothy: 1st Timothy 2:11 through 15 KJV Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, ...


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I don't know how much I would rely on the rabbinic literature (referred to in the Wikipedia article). It at least seems unlikely that Orpah would move from Moab to Phillistia. If she turned back from following Naomi, it was probable that she did so to return to her family in Moab. It is at least not generally accepted in Christendom that Orpah is Goliath's ...


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Yes, it still applies, but it has to be properly understood. It is not a question of worth or independence, but rather a question of role. God looked at Man and saw that Man was not ideally suited to life by himself and that he should have someone to be with. Woman was created to fill this role as a partner and helper to man just as man is a helper to his ...



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