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The difficulty in verifying the math and the calculations is that every prognostication has its own formula. In order to verify Harold Camping, for instance, you have to look at the passages he is pulling from.
For example, here is one (and I don't endorse it) showing how they arrive at their numbers.
Probably the most important calculations revolve ...
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The Epistle of Barnabas is not considered canon. Sticking purely to canon, the bible is very explicit that we do not know. The world could end tomorrow. Or this afternoon. Or 10,000 years from now:
Matt 25:13
Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man comes.
Mark 13:32
No one knows about that day or ...
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I don't know how much weight should be put on this reference, but it does give different information:
It may come as a surprise but the doctrine of the Rapture is not mentioned in any Christian writings, of which we have knowledge, until after the year 1830 C.E. Whether the early writers were Greek or Latin, Armenian or Coptic, Syrian or Ethiopian, ...
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There's also Matthew 24:40-42
Two men will be out in the field; one will be taken, and one will be left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken, and one will be left. Therefore, stay awake! For you do not know on which day your Lord will come.
and it's friend Luke 17:34-35
I tell you, on that night there will be two people in ...
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Catholicism is incompatible with the Rapture because the Church has taught for many centuries before people started envisioning folks disappearing mid-sentence that there would be a Final Judgement where everyone would see their sins and their effects.
I don't think 1 Thessalonians 4:17 speaks to the Final Judgement on account of the fact that St. Paul says ...
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As dleyva3 mentioned, the term comes from 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Our word "rapture" comes from the Latin word for "caught up".
The doctrine that faithful Christians would be whisked away to be spared tribulation is a relatively new interpretation of that verse. The traditional Christian belief was that Jesus would return once, to bring judgment. At his ...
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It's a combination of a couple of things.
First, there's a passage in Matthew 24:38-41:
For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and
took them all away. That is how it will be at the ...
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I know I should probably reference these, but I'm going to appeal to common knowledge
Before answering, I just want to re-emphasize two central teachings that are common to the vast majority of Christianity:
It's safe to say that almost every denomination, and almost every major division within Christianity agrees that God does not and cannot lie. I'm ...
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I think to answer your question we have to address some foundational items of Christianity.
First Christianity is a religion based on being saved by grace. Nothing done by you will warrant salvation for your soul. (Romans 3:23 (No one is good enough), Romans 6:23 (God gives us the gift of salvation), Ephesians 2:8 (Grace saved us)) It seems that the ...
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Abstract
The idea that the saved go to heaven when they die is somewhat anachronistic. Equally anachronistic is the idea that people will be "raptured" into heaven when Jesus returns. Paul had another meaning in mind when he wrote this verse.
N. T. Wright explains in Surprised By Hope:
The word parousia occurs in two of the key passages [concerning ...
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To be honest, I don't have a good answer for why Jesus doesn't mention the Rapture in His Matthew 24 discourse. However, I don't think that this disproves a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, and many other passages support it.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 (KJV)
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of ...
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This one line "Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather." is parable.
This would be the equivalent of saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
Long answer:
Where, Lord?
The question that Jesus is responding to is also a bit confusing (particularly given our modern understanding of the rapture). However, the question of "Where, ...
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The "dead in Christ" (οἱ νεκροὶ ἐν Χριστῷ) refers to "those who are asleep" (τοὺς κοιμηθέντας; cp. 1 Thes. 4:14). Meaning, the dead bodies of Christian believers.
The souls of the dead Christian believers do indeed go to heaven (or "Paradise") upon death (cp. Phil. 1:23; 2 Cor. 5:8; Luke 23:43).
When the Messiah returns, the souls of dead believers will ...
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The idea of the rapture is taken from many scriptures in the Bible, but the term "rapture" is from 1 Thes. 4:17. The phrase "caught up" in latin is rapiemur. It means "seized" or "taken."
See also the words of Jesus:
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe ...
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The general point is that there are different ways to try to figure it out. There are generally two assumptions made (three if you count the elephant in the closet of being able to calculate at all) and these are:
The scriptures provide in some fashion a calculable total of time units at the end of which is a particular eschatological event such as 'the ...
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I have always understood this Rapture event as being near instantaneous.
I also always envisioned this event to be something like flying with those that had died in the faith before the living, as they meet the Lord in the clouds.
This scripture reference seems fairly clear, but you were curious if there were any prominent speakers or scholars who have ...
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It is a common view that this part is talking about the rapture:
"I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”
In that case the ones taken would be raptured while the left ones were in troubles, or tribulation.
There are ...
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While the doctrine may have not been created until the 17th century, the idea came about probably quite shortly after Revelations was first created.
The idea comes directly from a literal interpretation of Revelations.
Revelations 20:4-6 NIV
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those ...
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