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The filioque is meant as a theological explanation of the relationship between the Spirit and the Son. The Bible tells us that the Son is begotten from the Father, and that the Spirit proceeds from the Father, but any curious Trinitarian is going to wonder what the Spirit-Son relationship is. And the West, as a rule, is much more interested in nailing down ...


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It would be the heresy of monophysitism (or, pushed to an extreme docetism) to deny Jesus' free will. The classic text on the matter is in this matter is Luke 22:42 - "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." If Jesus had no free will, this statement has no meaning. Additionally, Hebrews 4:15 states: ...


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The Arians were very good at using the same (Biblical) language as orthodox Christians, but meaning entirely different things by them. The language in the Creed had to be so specific that it removes all wiggle room. I think I can hear, in the creed, the frustration of someone so upset with Arian double-speak that they pound orthodoxy home with some ...


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The aim of the retranslation, as I understand it, is to have the translated text more accurately represent the original text. The Latin version of the creed says: Genitum, non factum, consubstantialem Patri Which means "begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father". The new translation is an accurate translation of the Latin. (In the same way, ...


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Origin of the phrase There are actually a number of texts that are labeled the "Nicene Creed". The text produced by the 325 council does not include information about the kingdom at all. Eusebius of Caesarea, who attended the council, wrote back to his congregation about the deliberations. He reports an initial version of the creed that was used as a ...


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Regarding the term ἐκπορεύομαι We have to keep in mind that Trinitarian doctrine and the technical terminology surrounding it did not stabilize until the Fourth Century A.D. The creed commonly called the Nicene Creed would be better termed the “Nicene-Constantinopolitan” Creed, since it incorporates material that was elaborated not only in the ...


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I don't think I could improve upon the summary at the Orthodox Wiki: Objections on doctrinal grounds It is contrary to Scripture, particularly in John 15:26: "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me." Thus, Christ never describes the Holy Spirit ...


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Once - in two different ways depending on our definition of 'begotten' There seems to be some confusion on the subject because "only begotten" a theological term does not mean "begotten" a biblical term. But to answer your question, if thinking 'begotten' as in 'only begotten' it gains prominence in Council of Nicaea in A.D. 325 representing Christ’s ...


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The Filioque is considered to be of extremely significant importance in Reformed Theology. Even in Reformed-flavored Protestantism (such as that found at The Gospel Coalition), it has implications for Scripture's authority, as well as preaching and discipleship. These implications include the authority of Scripture and the preaching and discipleship of the ...


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The Nicene Creed is a long-standing tradition in Christianity, and "defines the mainstream definition of Christianity for most Christians". It has been independently accepted by the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran (pdf link), and plenty of Protestant churches. Joshua Christian seems to have presented a fanciful (or at least misleading) view of the ...


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It appears to be an issue directly related to the Latin. As we see in the original Latin that was brought out of the Council of Nicea the line: Qui cum Patre et Fílio simul adorátur et conglorificátur Roughly translated to English, we see it translated to "Who with the Father and to the Son, He is worshiped and glorified". (We'll ignore the literal ...


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The Creed as promulgated at the Council of Nicaea was actually very short, and didn't include the "worshipped and glorified" phrase: We believe in one God the Father all powerful, maker of all things both seen and unseen. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten begotten from the Father, that is from the substance [Gr. ousias, Lat. ...


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The portion of the Nicene Creed as translated in the Catholic Encyclopedia online: And (I believe) in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father (and the Son), who together with the Father and the Son is to be adored and glorified, who spoke by the Prophets. (Catholic Encyclopedia - The Nicene Creed) The original ...


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This answer is from my personal understanding of Trinity, so there is a possibility of error: If I understand your question correctly, I don't think the intention of the council fathers was to divide the Job/responsibility of Creation to three person. Saying the Father does not give life, the Spirit did not make heaven and earth will probably be a heresy in ...


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I would like to add some theological background to this answer from the Catholic perspective (and naturally, I would invite Orthodox readers to contribute their own perspective). First, some historical background: As the original question points out, the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed was originally written in Greek. Although the fundamental concepts in ...


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For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet was without sin. (NIV Hebrews 4:15) the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me (NIV John14:30) Jesus had free will, but not the ability to sin, that is considered impossible by many ...


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The old creeds are useful summaries of Christian doctrine. They are useful because the way God decided to shape the Bible was not like a systematic theology textbook, even though we might sometimes wish it was! The creeds were written in times of division in the church to clarify what the groups that wrote them believe the Bible taught. In general each ...


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The term the Nicene Creed uses for substance is homooúsios. This term was intentionally chosen to separate the Creed from various forms of Arianism that denied the divinity of Jesus. The Nicene Creed is arguing that Jesus is fully divine just like the Father. The common forms of nontrinitarianism at the time commonly denied the divinity of Christ by arguing ...


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The phrase “God of God” means that a person came from a person ( like an offspring from a parent) and that they are of same nature. It is analogous to the phrase “Human of Human,” That is, a human offspring of a human parent. To beget is to produce someone to have one’s nature. Seth is begotten of Adam. Seth and Adam are of same nature. A human person ...


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I define Scripture as those books of the Bible upon which the greatest part of the whole company of Christian believers agree to be divinely inspired word of God. The Nicene Creed is not an "extra-biblical doctrine", but rather a concise statement of a summary of the essential parts of the Christian faith. The most fundamental reason for the Nicene Creed ...


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In order to answer this question logically, we must address 3 theological concepts: 1 – Time 2 – The Incarnation of the 2nd person of the Trinity 3 – The eternal state of the procession of the Son from the Father In light of Thomistic theology, first, let’s focus on time. One of the best (if not the best) Augustinian/Thomistic theologians is Frank J. ...


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The Nicene Creed originally had no filioque clause, which was a western innovation centuries later. The Creed simply said that the Holy Spirit proceeded “from the Father,” and the Council of Ephesus, 431, expressly forbade any alteration other than by another ecumenical council. The problem was not only that the eastern Church accepted the Nicene Creed in ...


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To say "The Son and the Father are of the same substance" (consubstantialem as the word is in the Latin Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed) is to say that they have the same being (ousia in Greek); that is, that they are the same kind of thing—God. Traditionally, Catholic theology has said that even though the Son and the Father are of the same substance ...


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There is no contradiction between saying the Nicene creed seems to be a reasonable summary of many of the things the Bible teaches, and accepting nothing just because it is in the Nicene creed, but justifying every belief based on Bible texts. There is a danger that a creed will be treated as if it were scripture. It is very important that Christians test ...


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Something that the answers above did not cover is the very strong assumption made in the title regarding the scope of the word of God, which is important for the question itself. Established Chalcedonian Churches would not make any claim of the form "all of the word of God is contained in..." or "there can be no more". Indeed, the two most prominent ...


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The main purpose of the Nicene Creed was to establish Trinitarianism as Christian doctrine, in opposition to Arianism. If a majority agreement was obtained under duress, few bishops would have been courageous enough to say so; after all, duress implies that you must remain silent about your disagreement with the verdict. Edward Gibbon says in The Decline and ...


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Around the time of the 1st council of Nicaea (325), what was the makeup of Bishops at the time? This was a first ecumenical church council, on which the bishops gathered together to settle the raging of the heresy of Arianism. It is recognized by Eastern Orthodox, and Roman Catholic churches as real ecumenical council. It was the first ecumenical ...


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I heard this on Relevant Radio on the 'Go ask your father' show a few days ago, so I can't reference it much more than that, although the good Reverend Know It All may have written an essay about it. Begotten is a word to confer inheritance. In Jewish culture, this would only be done between Father's and their progeny. That's why there's all those ...



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