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Technically, the first ecclesiastical authority to say that heretics should be persecuted was Pope Gregory IX in 1229. The first Church Father to say that heretics should be compelled to recant would be Augustine around 400 AD. The first heretic actually put to death (385AD) was killed by the Emperor - and the Pope was very annoyed at the development. It ...


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There is no biblical precedent for formal disassociation with the church, other than excommunication. Excommunication is a church censure for some gross act for which as Paul says, one must be "handed over to Satan," with the idea that the offender will repent and (hopefully) be reinstated. 1 Corinthians 5 goes into this. One might be excommunicated for ...


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This is not completely hypothetical. In the mid-300s, Pope Liberius may have signed a statement supporting what later became known as Arian heresy. That he did so in exile and possibly under torture is mitigation, and the story is complex, but it is a more concrete version of this question. In any event, there was clear pressure from the Emperor that came ...


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I understand by your question and follow up comment, you are really asking, 'Why did Luther reject the traditional sacraments of the Catholic church, which in turn was one of the reasons why the Catholic church branded him as a heretic?' The answer is complex as the rejection of traditional views of the sacraments was not central to what Luther saw as his ...


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Luther and the Church It must be said that Martin Luther was originally a servant of the Church, and prior to posting his 95 theses, he expressed loyalty (at least superficially) to the Pope. Despite his frequent battles with spiritual depression, Luther proved himself to be a very intelligent man, was ordained a priest, and became a doctor of theology. ...


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To look at the various aspects of your question from a Catholic point of view... If one's entry into the church is solemnized by baptism... What does the Catholic Church teach about baptism? 1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), 4 and the door which givesaccessto ...


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According to each of their own "statements of Faith" they actually do contradict each other in big issues. before I lay it out, however, here are my citations: Waldensian beliefs Lollard beliefs The first issue on which they contradict each other is purgatory. Waldensians say there is no purgatory. They say people will go either two ways “(the) good to ...


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Heretic are they who restricting belief to certain points of Christ's doctrine selected and fashioned at pleasure. They believe not what Christ really taught, but the suggestions of his own mind. - (Summa Theologica - Second Part of the Second Part - Question 11) Schismatics are they who of their own will and intention separate themselves from the unity of ...


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Brief Googling shows that Lollards were followers of John Wycliffe while the Waldensian church followed the teachings of the merchant Waldo of Lyons. The term Lollard seemed like more of a derogatory label (much like the term Christian) where the Waldensian church identified itself as such. How the followers of these two doctrines look today also seems to ...


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This re-formulation is nowhere stated to supersede the "Outside the Church..." formulation. It is a rephrasing which the Catechism uses to explain the original formula. An obvious advantage of having two reformulations is that it allows one to understand a single truth in multiple ways. Thus, there is the original formulation which you state, which certainly ...


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There are two primary reasons for believing that God is an individual person. First, the Old Testament is unabashedly monotheistic. Monotheism was something which set the Jews apart from their neighboring nations. Deut 6:4 (NASB) Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! Consequently, Christians are also monotheists. Not only do they ...


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I can't argue from my own personal conviction, so these might not be the strongest arguments unitarians would assert. As much as it pains me not to offer the counterarguments, I will give them their say. God is One Critics of trinitarianism will point to there being almost no mention of any "persons of the Godhead" in the Old Testament (exceptions: Ge ...


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Like Affable Geek states...this is more historically concrete than one might think. I think the basic 2 questions you are getting at (someone correct me if I'm wrong) are: Question 1 - What would (should) happen if a Roman Pope promulgates, decrees, or endorses a heretical doctrine? Answer - He would be anathametized as an heretic in an Ecumenical ...


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Being a hypothetical question, you're bound to get a lot of personal opinion. I'll give it my best shot though. In a nutshell, Catholics (as far as personal experience and research) are told they must obey the Pope because of his responsibility to serve and protect the Church and it's people. So if a Pope were to snap and go full-on heretic, some would say ...


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Heretics lose their office in the Church. Pope Paul IV, Bull Cum ex Apostolatus Officio, Feb. 15, 1559: “1… Remembering also that, where danger is greater, it must more fully and more diligently be counteracted, We have been concerned lest false prophets or others, even if they have only secular jurisdiction, should wretchedly ensnare the ...


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Pope Honorius was condemned as a heretic by Pope Saint Leo II, an ecumenical council and subsequent popes affirmed the anathemas. The historical record therefore shows that a pope can fall into heresy. Pope Paul IV taught that if a pope falls into heresy he loses the papal office. He said in order to be pope a man must be Catholic. If he ceases to be ...


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According to Schaff's history, Athanasius wrote Against Apollinaris about the year 372 against Apollinarianism in the wider sense, without naming, Apollinaris or his followers; so that the title above given is wanting in the oldest codices. Similar errors, though in like manner without direct reference to Apollinaris, and evading his most important ...


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One common verse cited against it is Deuteronomy 6:4, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" The problem against this view is the use of the Hebrew word for "one." That same word is used in Genesis 2:24 where Adam and Eve are said to "become one flesh." It is a compound unity, that in this case means one composed of two persons. It is used ...


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The Definition of Torture The first thing to identify in such a question is the definition of torture. Torture is a fluid term and similar or even exact same actions may seem like torture against one person but not against another, so there is a subjective nature to the question. There is also the consideration of certain execution methods actually being ...


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To answer your title questions This question lacks the short and simple answer: Schism means that you agree on doctrine but not on hierarchy. Heresy means you have rejected a defined doctrine of the Church. This means you can have people who have separated themselves from the Church but agree on doctrines (say, the SSPX), and you can have people who ...


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From a Non-Denominational Standpoint, if you are worried about what God will think, then you need not worry about what the Church goers are saying about you. if you are leaving a church because it interferes with you being one with God, then it doesn't matter what "the church" is going to say about it. the church is there for you, not the other way around, ...



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