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Existing in a perfect state did not deprive Adam and Eve of Free Will. Genesis 3:4-5 tells us that the serpent firstly modified God's Word by promising Eve that by taking of the forbidden fruit she would not surely die. Second, he enticed her with the promise of knowledge (knowing good and evil). Genesis 3:4-5 (KJV) And the serpent said unto the woman, ...


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When Adam and Eve sinned in the garden, God gave them skins to cover up with (Genesis 3:21). To get those skins, some animal had to die. In other words, God sacrificed an animal to cover their sin1. From the beginning, God has declared the payment for sin is death, and so blood must be shed to cover sin: Leviticus 17:11: “For the life of a creature is in ...


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My view is 1) in a way, 2) no, 3) read on! Consider two snapshots in time. No humans around yet, just plants, animals and so forth. Lacking free will, they have no moral responsibility, and the concept of "sin" makes no sense. Humans exist. We have free will, moral responsibility, and conflicting tendencies: we are born to trouble (as sure as sparks fly ...


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Mormons believe both passages, (1) That Adam and Eve were commanded to multiply (Genesis 1:28). (2) Unless these partook of the fruit of the tree of knowledge Adam and Eve could not have children (2 Nephi 2:23). And along with other Christians, they also believe (3) God commanded them not to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Genesis ...


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I believe that you are referring to the theory that the original sin was sex. This, however, is not Biblically true. Before the fall, God said: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every ...


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Nowhere in the bible does it say that adam and eve were perfect. The bible does call them good, and even very good. But nowhere does it say they were perfect, perfection belongs to GOD alone. Apparently to be good or even very good does not deprive one of the possibility of choosing to rebel against GOD. I think the whole issue with how is it that Adam ...


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I don't have enough information to speak about the Southern Baptist Convention, where each congregation is a separate entity, and some could accept what the OP cites as the "serpent seed" doctrine, nor can I address the issues of the Assemblies of God. I do have some familiarity with the beliefs of the Methodist and Presbyterian Churches, and am a ...


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The answer to this depends very much on the concept of who God is in the first place. If God is, as evangelical Christians believe, pre-existent, self-existent, omnipotent, omniscient, infinite and eternal, then it would be impossible for there to ever be multiple gods that share all those attributes. A created being cannot become uncreated. A mortal ...


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On the surface, the teaching that 'the original sin' was Eve having sex with the serpent/Satan and that this resulted in Cain could seem to most Protestants to be bizarre, nonsensical and offensive. They may think that someone promoting such a line would be mocking the scriptures and Christianity and not be in any way serious. On further investigation, ...


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The best answer I've seen is that it is an animal sacrifice: Heb. 9:22: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. That's because it is necessary to kill animals to get their skins. The reader would be expected to make the connection with the sin offerings ...


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I'll take a shot here, as I've thought about this quite a bit. Feel free to point out anything that doesn't mesh with the bible in some way! As my current belief and understanding goes, God created Adam and Eve as perfect beings in His image, but also with free will. Without this crucial component, no human would have been choosing to love Him, and (to pull ...


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Well, let's have a look at the actual text. Genesis 2: 16-17 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Verse 17 is particularly ...


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This is an interesting question. The simple answer is that we are really told explicitly whether or not physical pain was possible. We do know, however, that in the judgment of Eve, pain is mentioned: To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your ...


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To discover the answer, you must define your terms. As suggested by Francis Schaeffer, when Christians use the term "God," they mean personal infinite. If we dissect this definition, therein lies your answer. While people are obviously personal, they are obviously not infinite, so they cannot be a "God." However, the term "god" can refer to a personal ...


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From what I know of Augustine, he would say that, rather, God's love is the enabler of our faith. That is, God's love for the sinner is the ultimate cause of creating new life in the believer, which enables that believer to have faith. See Augustine's On Grace and Free Will, Chapter 17. And if you look at Chapter 12 and 13 of the same work, you will see ...


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At your suggestion lets take a longer look at 2nd Corinthians chapter 11. As with most Scriptures, it is extremely difficult to extract the true meaning from a verse or a couple of verses without considering other verses not only around that verse, but in other verses in the Bible which lend explanation to the verses in question. All Scripture is taken ...


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This is not a complete answer, but thought it would be good to point out nonetheless. God had given Adam and Eve the dominion over the earth, the fish, birds... "And God blessed them. And God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every ...


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I can't speak for all theistic evolutionists, but I can give my own perspective. First, I want to provide some background. As an Arminian Christian I believe God created everything in a state of goodness, but gave humans free will that enables us to turn away from his perfect will. It is this following of our own will rather than God's that makes us ...


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I think "perfect" is the wrong word choice here. I think it's important that Adam -- as the first man -- came as a sort of tabula rasa with regards to guilt and sin, but still blew it (so to speak). It's significant that Jesus is described as a second Adam (1 Cor. 15, Romans 5:14). The implication here, I think, being that given the opportunity, Adam ...


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I think this question reflects a common error in our thinking which I call temporal lock - that is, we have a great tendency to reason about the eternal things of God from a temporal and limited perspective. God is the great "I Am" - the eternal present. God's eternity certainly is more complex than time continuing forever; it's timelessness. God is not ...


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When I was a Protestant, the most frequent answer that I received from authorities, and one I often used myself, was that the entire purpose of the church (the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth) was to prepare ourselves for our future glory. We, as the bride prior to the wedding, must make ourselves ready for the wedding day. In other words, we are constantly being ...


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"If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation." Saved human beings have an old nature and a new nature. At death, the old nature is removed entirely, and only the new nature remains. (This is the "glorification" in the salvation trio of justification, sanctification, and glorification.) You should not think that this new nature is a return to the nature ...


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The Bible doesn't support this at all, so there is no scripture reference to give. Although perhaps there is a negative one. Speaking of Jesus' incarnation, the author of the epistle to the Hebrews says: Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. (KJV) That is, Jesus came to save men, not ...


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Don't confuse sinlessness( innocent, free from moral wrong) with perfection. Adam and Eve were sinless as newborn children are sinless, innocent and without understanding, not having ever actually committed any sins. But perfection implies more than simply flawlessness; it also requires completion. When Jesus commanded us to be perfect, he said even as ...


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First, a definition of perfect. Because God did create us perfect: a : being entirely without fault or defect : flawless (a perfect diamond) b : satisfying all requirements : accurate c : corresponding to an ideal standard or abstract concept (a perfect gentleman) d : faithfully reproducing the original; specifically : letter-perfect e : legally valid ...


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Essentially what is being asked here (and, if I may be so bold, reframe the question), is if Adam and Eve were perfect how could they sin? How can beings who are created perfect sin? God is perfect but He cannot sin nor can He be tempted to sin. We infer from Ezekiel (assuming this really is referring to the Devil (aka Satan aka Lucifer?) was perfect in all ...


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That's an excellent question. I myself have wondered how the two are reconciled. The Catholic Church has no opposition to evolution, only what's called evolutionism. Evolutionism is a metaphysical position about reality which is really what's at issue in the so-called "evolution debate". The Church is, of course, a religious institution and doesn't concern ...


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You mean the "happy fault of Adam"? It's not that bad, seriously it's unspeakably evil, but it's not the end of the world. It's really the beginning of the world, the first Covenant between God and man wasn't until after the fall 70 Beyond the witness to himself that God gives in created things, he manifested himself to our first parents, spoke to ...


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It's funny. This question made me realize something I never noticed before. It's true. For almost nothing (a 'mere apple'), Adam knowingly threw away life, heaven, paradise, and eternal happiness - for the whole universe. This makes Adam's sin possibly the greatest ever committed. A million Hitlers could not sin in all their lives as much as Adam did in ...


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Correct me if I misunderstand, but I think you are asking 'Is the Devil's purpose meant to help us understand X? Where X is various ideas as understood by reformed theology. Reformed theology has a 'system of understanding' to view many of the events and persons you mention, such as the Devil, pre-destination, the fall, etc. and does support your concept ...



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