Tag Info

Hot answers tagged

51

It is simply impossible to keep the juice from crushed grapes from fermenting without modern refrigeration and pasteurization techniques. So yes, the wine was alcoholic. There is plenty of textual evidence as well, but this should do: The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax ...


38

First, understand people will adjust the literal translations of the Bible in order to hear what they want to hear. They will also interpret the words of the Bible based off of their own definitions as defined by their surroundings without truly finding out what those words meant to Jesus. When the Bible says that Jesus turned water into wine. Then that's ...


25

Short answer: You've gone too far when your drinking no longer glorifies God (1 Corinthians 10:31). Long answer: This line can be crossed at different times for different people and in different situations. A single sip, or even the presence of alcohol can be too much, if it causes another to stumble. 1 Corinthians 8:13. Drinking for selfish reasons, ...


14

Important Question What purpose could the prohibition against drunkenness possibly have to a group of people who were unable to get drunk? If the wine wasn't really wine, then how could they get drunk? Noah certainly got drunk and appears to have passed out from wine. This could be the result of wine fermenting faster in the post-flood environment than ...


13

I certainly think the clarify of the passage is a bit lacking. As I understand verse 22, Ham "saw" the nakedness of his father...perhaps not just as in accidentally, but more of a deeper "examination" of his fathers nakedness? There is no mention of what Ham's thinking was...perverse or spiteful...disrespectful...but I think the difference between Ham's ...


11

My denomination is one that is very strongly in the "Christians shouldn't drink - at all" camp. Very strongly. And my Pastor, whom I love and respect, is very strongly in that camp as well. Yet even he, in his sermons, will tell you that nowhere in the Bible is drinking explicitly called a sin. However, in many places, drunkenness and even alcohol ...


9

Wine in the Bible may have had alcohol in it, as it was necessary to keep it from spoiling. Proverbs 23:31 does seem to distinguish that some wines had higher alcohol contents than others and it says to avoid that wine: Proverbs 23:29-31 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath ...


9

No, it's drinking to excess that is wrong - Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit (Eph 5:17-19). Then, one needs to define "excess". Which is likely to more personal and will vary from believer to believer; one might draw the line at the legal limit for driving as a useful guideline. It's widely ...


8

No it is not wrong to consume alcohol. You know that Christ would never convince or encourage a person to sin, let alone give them MORE of something to sin with. Let's dissect Jesus' first miracle. Understand that these wedding goers drank all of the wine at the wedding. These people are drunk, some are probably tanked and yet Jesus turns water into wine ...


6

Biblical Background If you do an in-depth Bible study on alcohol, one finds that... it doesn't take that long. There really isn't much written about it. Just don't get drunk, but give it to those who are perishing (Proverbs). However, there is another key verse of note: 1 Thessalonians 5:22 is translated in the KJV to be "abstain from every appearance ...


4

[...] All their efforts must aim at preserving the true faith and a high moral tone among the people; they attain this end by good example, by preaching, by daily solicitude for the good administration of the diocese, and by prayer. [...] - Obligations of the bishop | Bishop | New Advent. Therefore it is within the rights and obligations of ...


4

Jesus first miracle was to turn water into wine. The guest of the party responds to the host, saying that most people serve bad wine after the guests are drunk: John 2:10 (NWT) and said to him: “Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now.” If we go further ...


4

The Bible does not utterly explain this. Some suggest theories that Ham did something evil during Noah's sleep and that was the reason for the curse, but it's all speculation. I'd rather think that the Bible would tell us if there was a good reason. The way I see it, Noah was drunk and naked, i.e. in quite an inappropriate state -- of his own fault. When he ...


4

The Bible have a lot of places where drinking wine is a natural thing, but often referenced in context of reduced self control. Genesis 9:21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when King Xerxes was in high spirits from wine, he commanded the seven eunuchs who served ...


3

I'd advocate that it's at your own discretion. I don't think it can be set in stone what exact amount of alcohol intake would warrant drunkenness or tipsiness. Different people, I've learned, react differently to different amounts of alcohol in their system. Some can control themselves better than others. But as a general rule of thumb, it would be ...


3

I've heard this debated for many years. Has no one here ever made wine? There is no such thing as unfermented wine, 'new' wine refers to wine that has only been fermented for a short period (about 6 weeks). Being grape growers and vinedressers for centuries, I'm pretty certain the people of Jesus' day were pretty expert winemakers. There are ways to make ...


3

I say yes, but each is entitled to his/her own opinion. For example, from Romans 14 (vs 19-21 specifically): 19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. 20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. 21 ...


2

I'm not personally from a denomination that believes drinking alcohol is wrong (we in fact have a theology class that meets in a bar and drink beer during it), but my understanding from talking with Christians that don't believe in drinking tend to stem from the passage "all things are permissible but not all things are beneficial" (1 Corinthians 10:23) ...


2

Wine (and alcoholic) beverages most certainly are in the Bible - in similar or identical forms to what we'd consider now (possibly excluding complex distillation). I've recently started a study on the history of alcohol in the Bible, and have found nearly 200 references to the substances.


2

Noah was in his own private tent after a hard earned celebration of rescuing all land bound life in the world, with wine he had grown, pressed, and fermented by his own hard efforts, and then his thoughtless son just storms into his private tent as his father slept off the celebrations of the evening, got an eyeful and proceeded to make a big deal about it ...


1

Hebrew and Greek Words Translated as 'Wine' When the Bible referes to "wine" it does not necessarily refer to the same thing every time, there are at least 18 different words that have all been translated as "wine" somewhere in the bible, they are listed below. It is interesting to note that in the N.T., which was composed in Koine Greek, all occurrences ...


1

A lot is made, by Christians opposed to the drinking of wine, of the idea that the same word in NT Greek might have been used to describe unfermented grape juice and alcoholic wine. While it gives an 'out' for the interpreters opposed to wine to interpret all the passages in favour of wine as meaning 'grape juice' while interpreting all the passage opposed ...



Only top voted, non community-wiki answers of a minimum length are eligible