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Having a bit of holiday over Christmas and New Year I'm going over some notes I've made of topics I want to look at.

One such question regards the use of terminology such as "Jesus took our illnesses upon himself on the cross".

I've read a little and seen that there's a variety of perspectives (from perhaps "sickness is something that shouldn't affect Christians" to perhaps a focus on the full-application being in the future kingdom) that this statement could cover, but I'd be interested to see if anyone could give me the background texts to support such a statement (one would not have to agree with the exegesis to present the texts used to support the doctrine).

One commonly referenced text would be Isa 53:4-5 which concludes

and with his wounds we are healed

I'm interested in seeing what is the range of ideas that "Jesus took our illnesses" covers and what key texts are used to build up that argument.

I hope that's reasonably clear!

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According to google, the only usage of that full phrase (with the cross reference) is you: this question here, and on meta.hermeneutics –  Marc Gravell Dec 31 '11 at 17:13
    
I salute your nerdiness. Change the word "illness" to "sickness" and get a couple of hits. If you just search for the expression -Jesus took our sickness on the cross- then you'll get a quick idea of the range of ideas out there. But I don't want to throw the focus on anyone out there. –  Dave Alger Dec 31 '11 at 19:56
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Did you guys know you can throw an * in a phrase search on Google to get all possible matches for filling in the blank? It seems 'sin' and 'punishment' are the most popular choices. –  Caleb Jan 9 '12 at 21:18
    
How do you explain Mathew 8:17? –  user1354 Feb 27 '12 at 0:29
    
Gary, that's a good verse to bring up here. Looking at e.g. the NLT rendering "“He took our sicknesses and removed our diseases.”" could clearly be used to build the sort of statement I used. If you put this in an answer I'd have voted it up. As for your question: I'd have to say I start with questions about what Matthew was doing and trying to communicate here and why he uses a wording which is at odds with how we'd normally tend to translate Isaiah. But it was a good verse to look at here, thanks! –  Dave Alger Mar 10 '12 at 9:34

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In Isa 53, the word you are translating "illnesses" is more often translated as "transgressions" or "iniquities." Both of those words highlight the fact that Jesus took our sins with him on the cross, and by the wounds he suffered, we were healed - from the iniquity of sin.

The basic idea of salvation in Christainity is often summarized as this -

  1. We are sinners

  2. Because of this sin, we deserve eternal death - separation from God

  3. Jesus paid the penalty for that sin by dying on the cross, thus we are healed and given eternal life.

(For the purposes of this answer, lets not get into all the different ideas of atonement, etc... I'm going for the overview here!)

The point is "illness" is not a physical thing here, but a legal one. (Indeed, I've never seen that translation before - perhaps its just being confused with iniquities? An iniquity is an evil, a cause of suffering and distress, not necessarily a bodily thing.) We are "suffering" from sin, and the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 pays for that sin, so we are healed.

Beyond that, I've never seen a promise that Christians would never get sick. Even the early church recognized that believers would still die. The Good News, however, is that in our resurrected state, there would be no more corruption in our bodies - i.e. no sickness - but that's on the other side of the Jordan, not this one!

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Sorry if I was unclear but I am not translating anything "illnesses". I'm simply saying that some Christians will use the phrase I've given. I've also seen people develop that from their understanding of texts like Isa 53. Just to be clear I'm not asking for an analysis of Isa 53, I'm looking for what sort of range we have for understanding that comment and any biblical backing they would produce (ideally beyond Isa 53 - much for the reasons you give). –  Dave Alger Dec 31 '11 at 10:26
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The repeat of Isa in Matthew seems, in many translations, to relate to illness: mobile.biblegateway.com/passage/… –  Marc Gravell Dec 31 '11 at 18:01
    
This is a reasonable answer -- but to a different question. I don't think it engages the issue posed in the question. I'd love to see an overview of different takes on this and how people fill in the blanks to fit various doctrinal frameworks. I think it's a phrase used in a lot of ways and it would be useful to be aware of the range. –  Caleb Jan 9 '12 at 21:21
    
I would have to agree with Marc Gravell here.. The Hebrew in Isaiah is porported to support that view by cessationists but Matthew 8:17's Greek does not. Since the NT is inspires, we can conclude that Isaiah does mean physical illnesses. –  user3892098237432123 Dec 9 at 5:44

Isaiah 53 is not just about sin. Much more so, it is certainly not just about disease.

It is a picture of Christ on the cross, so all history leads up to this and all the future feeds back to this. The whole 'curse' of Adam was placed upo Him, and from Him the whole 'blessing' of Abraham is made. This is nothing less than the fall and return to paradise. So in a sense all salvation is here in its primitive kernel.

Even Rabbinic sources before Christ took the Messiah to undergo physical suffering and that would include the healing of physical diseases, not just sin. This can be seen from the Talmud identifyng th Messiah as the 'leperous one'.

Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 98b): "Messiah ...what is his name? The Rabbis say,' The leprous one'... for it says, 'Surely he has borne our sicknesses' etc. (Isa.53,4)."

From the New Testament view:

16When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick. 17This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah: “He took up our infirmities and carried our diseases.” (Mathew 8:16-17)

This makes it sufficiently clear that these words include demon possession and illnesses of body.

24He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed. 25For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. (1 Peter 2:24)

This also makes it clear that this means he would take away our sins.

So the idea seems to be that that Jesus is the great Messiah, the Healer, Comforter, Sin Bearer and killer of all; sin, hell, sorrow, death, and sickness, through his atonement. This does not mean all sickness and death is removed now, for salvation in history had developments and the full achievement of Christ’s work is in the future. All sorrow and suffering and sickness will not be removed until his future return to judge the living and the dead. However, when God met mankind, in the God-Man, it was impossible for the bizarre situation not to drive all sickness and demon possession away. The same will be true when he returns in glory:

16Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat. 17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; he will lead them to springs of living water. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.” (Rev 7:16-17)

This is the final dimension of Isaiah 53.

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I am afraid you are wrong Mr. Affable geek on what sickness means in Isaiah 53:4 . If you study it out in the Hebrew, you will see that it means literally sickness ! Also Matthew 8:17 shows Jesus healing the sick , to fulfill Isaiah 53 ! And let me say that Jesus carried away OUR sicknesses. not just those people in Matthew 8:17 . Because you see , I and you are an " OUR " ! Do you see that ? Also Psalms 101:4 says that He forgives all OUR sins and heals all OUR diseases. Jesus not only carried away our sins. But He also carried away the consequences of our sins , namely those things under the curses of those who disobey the ten commandments, one of those curses are SICKNESS ! But thank God that Jesus became a curse for us and redeemed us from the curse ! We do not have redeemed bodies now . But Jesus patches up THESE bodies for us until we get our glorified bodies. Our new bodies will never need patching up. So in the meantime , if you are sick, know that He forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases. This is why James said, Is ANY among you sick ? call for the elders, and the prayer of faith WILL heal the sick ! So for the sake of all the readers out there, make sure you handle the word of God accurately !

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I hate being a skeptic and a cynic, but people tend to heal from their illnesses with or without prayer. For more serious illnesses they tend to die from them with or without prayer. –  fredsbend the Grinch Dec 3 at 6:28
    
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@fredsbend If that were 100% the case, then why pray? James 5:16 –  user3892098237432123 Dec 9 at 6:05
    
@BenjaminHoogterp I don't pray because I fail to see a causal relationship between prayer and life. A claim that prayer is effective is not evidence of its supposed effectiveness. But perhaps that is better discussed in chat. –  fredsbend the Grinch Dec 9 at 6:19

Healing is part of the 'atonement', Christ's redemptive work on the cross.

Numerous supporting scriptures also attest. He heals all our diseases, Psalms 103:3. By His stripes we were healed, Matthew 18:7 & Isaiah 53. He bore our illnesses, 2 Peter 2:24. None of the diseases of Egypt, Deut 28:60.

The issue of healing is a rift in the body. While some claim all miraculous sign gifts have ceased, others claim to have witnessed and even participated in them. The difference between dialectical argument and experience gets lost in the shuffle, and despite the availability of videos, testimonies, and real life encounters, people are not obliged to believe (by them).

While some claim a partial and some a complete cessation of the miracles and healings demonstrated in the life of Jesus through the written Gospels, other testimonies throughout history have demonstrated supernatural endeavors (such as the Catholic church, which only beatifies those who have some level of miracles). Even today, while some would doubt, some ministries claim to have upwards of 500 people literally raised from the dead in the past few decades, in the midst of their evangelistic and missions work to the poor of Southern Africa and parts of Mexico.

Indeed, healing tents only several decades ago dotted America in the 1950s, as a wave of healing evangelists went across the nation. Excess and moral failure ultimately caused it's collapse, bringing reproach in general to the subject in the current day.

Theologically, however, healing is one of the hallmarks of Christianity, at lest in some circles. Christ came and demonstrated it, taught faith, and said anythibg was possible if we believed. Men such as Kenneth Hagin took Him at His Word, and is reported to have witnessed many uncounted miracles in His ministry.

As to why some might not get healed, therr are a variety of reasons, other than simply the catch phrase, "Uou don't have enough faith, brother". Indeed, Paul mentioned a few practical reasons for sickness and early death in the Corinthian church in his first epistle.

But, regardlesd, while some would disagree with healing being normative for today, others wholeheartedly day it is. And, as for who gets healed and who does not, usually, the best answer is, thank God for what He is doing.

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