# Six-hundred-sixty-six or six-six-six or six-one-six

Regarding the passage of Revelation 13:18, which is likely the most proper way to present the Beast's number?

• 600+60+6 (six hundred and sixty six)
• 6-6-6 (six six six)
• 600+10+6 (six hundred and sixteen)
• 6-1-6 (six one six)
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From the King James:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Six hundred is obvious..

Threescore - A "Score" is twenty, so that's sixty And sis

So, the correct answer, according to that version, is your first:

• 600+60+6 (six hundred and sixty six)

Also agrees to by the New American Standard version:

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

616 is believed by some to have been the original Number of the Beast in the Book of Revelation in the Christian Bible.1 Different early versions of the Book of Revelation gave different numbers, and 666 had been widely accepted as the original number. In 2005, however, a fragment of papyrus 115 was revealed, containing the earliest known version of that part of the Book of Revelation discussing the Number of the Beast. It gave the number as 616, suggesting that this may have been the original.2 Apparently the two different numbers reflect two different spellings of Emperor Nero/Neron's name, for which this number is believed to be a code.

So, either 666 or 616 could be the result of a copyist error.

If you're really interested in the opinion of someone who's taken the time to research this, I'd recommend this article from EscapeAllThings.com.

The conclusion leans strongly toward 666 as in "six hundred and sixty six".

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Can you show some evidence that the KJV is an accurate translation of this verse? – curiousdannii Jul 28 '14 at 0:02
@curiousdannii - No, I cannot. I did include a paragraph that discusses that the difference is not a matter of translation, but rather a discrepancy between the widely accepted manuscripts and a fragment of papyrus discovered in 2005. It's not a translation issue, it's a "Which source manuscript is correct?" issue. Which can't be answered definitively, but for which we can address what is widely accepted. – David Jul 28 '14 at 0:14
666 vs 616 is a source issue, but six hundred and sixty six vs six six six is a translation issue. – curiousdannii Jul 28 '14 at 1:56
If it's a manuscript issue, why even mention the KJV or NASB? The Greeks used letters to write out their numbers, similar to the Romans. This isn't a case of merely swapping a 1 with a 6. – Andrew Jul 29 '14 at 11:38

The Greek spells out each word:

ἑξακόσιοι (six hundred) ἑξήκοντα (sixty) ἕξ (six).

At the time the NT was written, place holders were unknown. It was simply not possible to write ἕξ ἕξ ἕξ (or to use the single letters for six which would be three stigmas) and it be understood as six hundred sixty-six. To write out 666 using the letter equivalents would be chi xi stigma (χξϛ). Chi being used for six hundred, xi representing sixty, and stigma being 6 (stigma was used in antiquity only as a numeral). If you did write out ἕξ ἕξ ἕξ or ϛϛϛ, the reader would understand it as "18" because you add up the letters to make the total.

The translator's notes for Revelation 13:18 from the NET Bible concludes that 666 is to be preferred over 616:

A few mss (Ì115 C, along with a few mss known to Irenaeus {and two minuscule mss, 5 and 11, no longer extant}), read 616 here, and several other witnesses have other variations. Irenaeus’ mention of mss that have 616 is balanced by his rejection of such witnesses in this case. As intriguing as the reading 616 is (since the conversion of Nero Caesar’s name in Latin by way of gematria would come out to 616), it must remain suspect because such a reading seems motivated in that it conforms more neatly to Nero’s gematria.

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I would definitely check out this video. This youtube video is done on a channel that focuses on Math and Numbers, so 666 will be discussed Mathematically. However, the video mostly covers the historical side of the number 666. It goes into the Bible, how languages could have interpreted the number etc. It is very interesting.

But if you don't want to watch it (I recommend you do) I have briefly explained it below

The bible was not originally written in English, so in the original Greek manuscripts, the number is actually written as three letters. This is because the Greeks didn't have symbols for numbers, they had to use letters instead. Hebrew is also like this.

So in this system Alpha = 1, Beta = 2, Gamma = 3... This continues until at Iota, which will equal ten, then Kappa = 20... and this continues until Rho, which will equal 100, then sigma = 200... This means that every word has a numerical value. For example, the name "Pete" (Converted to Greek letters) will come out to be P = π = 80, e = ε = 5, t = τ = 300, and e = ε = 5. So the four numbers that make up "Pete" are 80, 5, 300, 5. So this added up is 390. Pete = 390. Depending on the translation you are using, it may say, "count the number of the beast" or even "calculate the number of the beast". So it is as if the bible is telling you that these numbers are a riddle. So basically the number comes out to be "Nero Caesar" in Hebrew. But in Greek, "Nero Caesar " comes out to be 616.

So in reference to your question, the way it should be represented is either six-hundred-sixty-six (666), or six-hundred-sixteen (616). This all depends on the version of Bible you are using.

If the link does not work. Search on YouTube or Google "Numberphile 666" and you will find it.

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First of all the B'rit Hadashah was not wrote in greek. It was translated from Hebrew to greek. When you all say 600-60-6 you are saying 600-66 that's not correct. It's 600-60 and 6. Not sixty six. That has a total different meaning. Don't go by the greek!! Go by the Hebrew. Yeshua was not a greek and he didn't go around speaking greek. In all actuality the B'rit Hadashah was first written in Hebrew then translated to Aramaic then to greek. Shalom.

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Welcome! We're glad you are here, but this answer would be much stronger if you showed, with sources, that it doesn't merely reflect your opinion. In particular, the claim that even the book of Revelation (not merely one or more of the gospels) was originally written in Hebrew is shocking and needs to be defended. I hope you'll take a minute to review how this site is different from others, and better understand how your answer can be supported. – Nathaniel Apr 2 at 12:47