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Mark 15:25, 18 KJV

And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.


And began to salute him, Hail, King of the Jews!

John 19:14-16 KJV

And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

How can Jesus be crucified on the 3rd hour but Pilate asked for his crucification at the 6th hour?

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Is it possible that they crucified him the next day? – 2pietjuh2 Apr 9 '14 at 14:36
It sure is possible. Can you show where that may be possible from the scriptures? – The Freemason Apr 9 '14 at 15:05
You might check out this answer:… It appears that the Jews may have thought about hours differently than the Romans, but John may have been written for a broader audience than just the Jews, as Matthew was. So, Matthew may use the Jewish manner, but John may use the Roman/Greek manner. – Narnian Apr 9 '14 at 15:17
Please consider migrating to hermenuetics if it is determined that the third hour is in fact the sixth hour depending on interpretation of time (Narnia's point). – The Freemason Apr 9 '14 at 18:30
FYI, if you're interested in the Hermenutic answer – The Freemason Apr 25 '14 at 20:02
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I found an interesting hypothesis that could actually explain the reason of this apparent discordance among the gospels. I go a bit into the Greek language, so I apologize for that, since this post would be more appropriate for hermeneutics (in fact I would suggest to move there).

In John 19:14 the KJV says that

it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour

Now, the word in the original translated here as "hour" is the Greek word hora (ὥρα), which is many times translated in this way in the NT.

The interesting thing that I found is that this is not the only possible translation for this word. Here follows a quotation from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, regarding G5610 - hora:

ὥρα, ὥρας, ἡ, from Homer down, the Sept. for עֵת and in Daniel for שָׁעָה;


2 . the daytime (bounded by the rising and the setting of the sun), a day: ὥρα παρῆλθεν, Matthew 14:15; ἤδη ὥρας πολλῆς γενομένης (or γινομένης) (A. V. when the day was now far spent), Mark 6:35 (see πολύς, c. (but note that in the example from Polybius there cited πολλῆς ὥρας means early)); ὀψίας (ὀψέ T Tr marginal reading WH text) ἤδη οὔσης τῆς ὥρας (WH marginal reading brackets τῆς ὥρας), Mark 11:11 (ὀψέ τῆς ὥρας, Polybius 3, 83, 7; τῆς ὥρας ἐγιγνετο ὀψέ, Demosthenes, p. 541, 28).

So the word hora could also be translated as day or daytime, bounded by the rising and the setting of the sun.

To make sense with this possible translation, the word hosei (ὡσεί) which is translated here as "about", should be fixed too. According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon, this word (G5616) can have the following possible translation:

b. about, nearly: α. before numerals: Matthew 14:21; Luke 1:56 (R G); ; John 6:10 (R G L (others ὡς)); Acts 2:41; Acts 4:4 (R G); (in L T Tr WH it is strengthened here by the addition of περί); ; also, Rec. in Mark 6:44; R G in John 4:6; John 19:14 (G?), 39; Acts 5:36; Lachmann in John 6:19 (Judges 3:29; Nehemiah 7:66; Xenophon, Hell. 1, 2, 9; 2, 4, 25). β. before a measure of space: ὡσεί λίθου βολήν, Luke 22:41.

So, when the word hosei is before a numeral, it could be translated as "nearly".

And this is exactly the case, since the word hosei, in John 19:14 (TR), is right before the numeral hectos (sixth):

ωρα δε ωσει εκτη

(hora de hosei hectos)

So, if we consider this possible alternative translation, the verse would sound something like this:

It was the preparation of the Passover, and nearly the sixth daytime

Now the sixth daytime sounds much like Friday morning in the Hebrew culture. So it could also be translated as:

It was the preparation of the Passover, and nearly the sixth day's morning

Now, there is a good reason why somebody (as the apostle John) would want to specify that it was nearly the morning of the sixth day, and it is that Friday was normally called the Preparation (see Mark 15:42 and Luke 23:54) and the day before the Passover was also called preparation. So, to give a right chronology of the facts, it would have been important to specify that it was the preparation of the Passover AND the preparation of the Sabbath, or in other words the sixth day. John may have chosen to say that it was nearly the sixth day's morning to imply both that it was Friday and also that it was early in the morning, as the other gospels say.

So, according to what I found, it could easily be that when Jesus was presented before the Jews by Pilate with the words, "Behold your king", it was nearly Friday morning and then, at the third hour Jesus was crucified (around 9 am). This would harmonize the account of Jesus' crucifixion in all the four gospels, placing it on Friday morning.

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John operates on a different chronology than Mark.

Matthew 26:17, Mark 14:12, Luke 22:7-9 all have the disciples asking Jesus where to prepare the Passover supper on first day of the feast of unleavened bread, with the crucifixion the next day. But John 19:14 has the crucifixion itself taking place on "the preparation of the passover" which is the first day of the feast of unleavened bread. So the day that Matthew, Mark, and Luke tell us Jesus had the disciples prepare the Passover, is the day he was crucified according to John. So John makes the whole thing take place a day earlier than the Synoptics. Once you realize that, it won't seem so important to be stuck on a difference of 3 hours.

There's an obvious theological reason why John does this. We are told in Mark 14:12 that the passover lamb is killed on the preparation day

"And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?"

In the Synopics, then, Jesus' death does not correspond directly to the killing of the Passover lamb. Rather, on the day the lamb is killed, the disciples are preparing for the Last Supper, and Jesus then eats an actual Passover seder with the disciples that night.

But John, who alone among the gospel writers speaks of Jesus as "the Lamb of God" (John 1:29, 1:36), wants Jesus' death to correspond exactly to the time that the Passover lamb is killed. So John moves the Last Supper to a day earlier, thus having Jesus' crucifixion on the day of preparation when the lamb is killed. Or does he?

The question is which is historical and which is merely theological spin. Its possible the Synoptics are historical here and John is the spin because he wants Jesus' death to correspond exactly to the Passover lamb. However, its also possible that John is historical and the Synoptics are spinning because they wanted Jesus to eat a real Passover meal as his last meal. [In John he's crucified while Passover is being prepared, so he doesn't get to eat a Passover meal.] You will note that in John, there is no institution of the Lord's Supper (Communion, Eucharist) at the Last Supper as in the Synoptics. Rather, John deals with this subject in John 6 when he has Jesus declare in the Synagogue at Capernaum that he is the bread from heaven. It could be that the Synoptics moved the date of Jesus' crucifixion in order to accommodate having Jesus institute the Lord's Supper at the Last Supper during a real Passover, or it could be that John moved the date in order to have Jesus' death correspond to the killing of the pascal lamb, and we'll never know this side of heaven which it is.

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If John said something different from Matthew,Mark & Luke regarding the hour of Jesus crucifixion,eihter John is a liar or Matthew,Mark & Luke are.Is this what you are supporting? Jesus could not have been crucified both at noon and at the third hour.There must be another explaination that does actually make sense.To say that John wanted to highlight that Jesus was the Lamb of God because of a theological spin and therefore moved the death of Jesus three hours later (when actually, as you said, the lamb died the day before and Jesus ate of it),or that the Synoptics did so,is mere speculation. – clami219 Apr 11 '14 at 9:56
I didn't say anyone moved anything a mere 3 hours if you'll notice. I said somebody moved things an entire day. We still do this today, by the way, with some people insisting on Thursday, others on Friday. Why can't we figure out whether it was Thursday or Friday? Because the Synoptics and John disagree on that. – david brainerd Apr 11 '14 at 14:48
One voice in favor of non-contradiction between John and the Synoptics:… I have not yet digested what this theologian teaches, but he seems to have a legitimate point of view, buttressed by some solid reasoning. As for his quoting of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, I'm a little leery; nevertheless . . .. Don – rhetorician Apr 11 '14 at 23:02
One of the paragraphs of that article begins with "To the contrary, the Magisterium has infallibly taught..." What has it taught? That Jesus was crucified on something called Good Friday, meaning you don't have a full three days between the crucifixion and resurrection. But many Protestants believe he was crucified on Thursday, thus having 3 actual days there. The RCC's "Magisterium" has followed John, and these Protestants have followed the Synoptics, or is it the other way around? That's another dimension to the thing. Can we gauge which is correct by which gives us a real 3 days? – david brainerd Apr 12 '14 at 2:05

Jesus was crucified at noon

He was led unto the hall of judgment in the morning, the gospels are quite clear here:

Matthew 27:1 (KJV)

1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:

Mark 15:1 (KJV)

1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.

Luke 22:66 (KJV)

66 And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying,

John 18:28 (KJV)

28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.

However, there seems to be some problem with the time of the crucifixion. Was Jesus crucified at noon, third hour, or sixth?

Matthew 27:45 (KJV)

45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

Matthew 27:45 (NIV)

45 From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land.

Mark 15:25 (KJV)

25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Luke 23:44 (NIV)

44 It was now about noon, and darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon,

Luke 23:44 (KJV)

44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

John 19:14 (NIV)

14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon. “Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.

John 19:14 (KJV)

14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

There is a conflict somewhere between the third and sixth hour. More information about this subject is given in this question, and also the comment below explains this more.

If we look from the other way, it was dark for three hours before he died. Jesus was buried before sundown, because it was the preparation day for the sabbat, and at sabbat it was not allowed to work.

Therefore Jesus was crucified around noon, making it possible to be dark for three hours, the crowd to leave the site, and Josef to take the body before sabbat.

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The NIV translates the "hours" beginning at 6 AM. Therefore, third hour=9 AM, sixth hour=noon, and ninth hour=3 PM. – Ben Miller Apr 11 '14 at 19:07
Counting of hours of the day in Israel starts around sunrise (about 6 a.m.). So Jesus' crucification took place about 9 a.m. (third hour of the day) and he died about 3 p.m. (ninth hour of the day). Side-by-side comparison of the related Gospel texts can be found here: – Jonatan Kaźmierczak Aug 25 '15 at 22:33

E. G. Richards describes in Mapping Time how shadow clocks were used to divide the hours of daylight up into exactly 12 hours of variable length according to the season. It was not until the invention of mechanical clocks that we changed over to a variable number of hours of daylight, each of fixed length throughout the year.

Using the universal shadow clock, the third hour was the third of daylight and the sixth hour was precisely noon. We find not one but two differences between Mark (and the other synoptic gospels) and John, not only in the time at which Jesus was crucified, either the third hour (9 o'clock) or the sixth hour 12 o'clock), but even the day. Mark says that the Last Supper, on the evening before the crucifixion, was also the Passover feast. John 19:14 tells us that the crucifixion took place on the day of preparation for the Passover. For theological reasons, the author of John has changed both the date and time of the crucifixion, to coincide with the time that Jews killed the sacrificial lamb for the Passover. In John's Gospel, Jesus is, by analogy, the lamb of God.

All other things being equal, the time given in Mark's Gospel - the third hour, or nine am - is more likely to be correct. John's account of the crucifixion occurring at the sixth hour is too obviously influenced by theology.

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"...too obviously influenced by theology." Sounds like you're challenging the inerrantcy of the gospel. – The Freemason Apr 15 '14 at 23:19

Third hour...All hours are depicted by the sun. Noon=None. High None....High Noon. It is all very simple really. A third hour could be different on which side of the earth you are on at the time, hence different time zones. At the time it was approx. 3:15 when Christ was crucified...hence the opposite pull effect on the am side. The witching hour.

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How do you know this? Where's your evidence? – curiousdannii Apr 26 '15 at 6:48
You're implying that Mark and John were in different time zones and that is the reason why their times do not line up? That would make no sense at all as there were no timezones back then and information didn't travel that fast that your pseudo timezone theory would apply. It's quite possible that 10 years or more went by before people knew Jesus died. Clearly it wasn't written (in surviving documents) for another 30 - 50 years. – The Freemason Apr 27 '15 at 13:38
Welcome here! If you intend to use this site, please read our introductory tour. About your answer... it sounds crazy, given the context (see Freemason's argumentation). This site is mainly about what various groups identifying themselves as Christians believe, so some crazy-looking ideas may be accepted here, but you need extra effort on linking sources proving that some authority (they must be wikipedia page or like about them) really teaches that, and that it is applicable to the question. – Pavel Apr 27 '15 at 17:51
Here's something to ponder about human memory. What direction (north, east, west, south) did the planes hit the twin towers? What time was it? What company owned the planes? What happened to the black box? What Islamic denomination did the hijacker's share? Don't cheat, just go off of your memory (don't google it). This was only 14 years ago and we have the benefit of TV, newspaper, etc. Jesus' death was witnessed by fewer people and was more than twice as long before people wrote it down - and when they did it wasn't just his death but his entire life story. – The Freemason Apr 29 '15 at 14:15
How could there not be mistakes? In fact, the fact that the books are so similar almost proves to me that there was some editing involved. – The Freemason Apr 29 '15 at 14:15

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