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Since Adam willfully disobeyed God's command not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, man has consistently chosen to do the things that irritate God. Why then does God not just create a new man and take him immediately into Heaven?

I know that the standard answer will be because of his great love, but be that as it may we still have to contend with facts; such as that many if not most of mankind from his creation, will ultimately be destroyed.

Since God knew before creation that all things would transpire as they have and will be. Why even go through all the trouble just to have that much rejection?

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I'm voting it down for this reason and I'd think you've been around enough to have a better idea of what types of questions not to ask. – David Mar 31 '14 at 2:58
@DavidStratton maybe he is asking for someone else. – WelcomeNewUsers Mar 31 '14 at 3:44
God did not know that all things would transpire as they have. He gave us free will which means that Adam and Eve could have obeyed OR disobeyed. It does not mean that they could only have disobeyed, that would be predestination and the opposite of free will. God will never use his ability to see the future in a way that removes our free will. (Deuteronomy 30:19, 20) – plv Mar 31 '14 at 4:19
I cannot delete it myself, so please close it for me! – BYE Mar 31 '14 at 19:50
@Bye Are you okay Cecil? Why are you leaving? – WelcomeNewUsers Apr 1 '14 at 11:22
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I ask myself that question all the time, like Jonah 4 NET

But to Jonah this seemed very wrong, and he became angry. He prayed to the Lord, “Isn’t this what I said, Lord, when I was still at home? That is what I tried to forestall by fleeing to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity.

Everyday I struggle not to have a heart like Jonah.

I think Man will obey God in the New Heaven. Here is why.

God saw that what He created was 'good' including man. And God had a purpose for man in the Garden. Genesis 2:5 NET

Now no shrub of the field had yet grown on the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

I trust that in Heaven Man will obey God. For two reasons:

1) We will be a bunch of kids in a big family. Matthew 19:14

But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me and do not try to stop them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.

2) We will be perfectly united in mind and thought. 1 Corinthians 1:10-17 and Acts 4:32-37. Paul said in Romans 12:2 NET that we can change our mind to OBEY God. I think in heaven God will help us. The knowledge that we gained from the tree of knowledge will be erased.

Do not be conformed to this present world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may test and approve what is the will of God--what is good and well-pleasing and perfect.

I don't see it as God's failure but as ours. Just like God had a plan for Man in the Garden. God will have a plan for Man in the New Heaven. And Man will OBEY.

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The standard answer, as you say is "God wants people to be with him because he loves us very much". Some people do indeed find this a little simplistic, and on much more reflection, come to a deeper answer.

Your objection to the standard answer appears to be that in creating mankind some will not go to be with him, and will either be destroyed or go to Hell, and that this will cause God trouble, and the hurt of rejection. Thinking like that is entirely natural and human. We don't want to put ourselves out much, and we don't like the hurt of rejection. If we humans were asked to do this, we probably wouldn't. And most of us would say of a person who didn't do it: "That's OK. Who can blame them."

The thoughts you describe are very slightly selfish, and fortunately God is not selfish - not even the tiniest bit. His love is really so great that even the very large amount of trouble and rejection he suffers, he considers it worthwhile. Christians say things like "God love is so big we can't fathom it", and that sounds like a cliche much of the time, but when we consider things like this we realize just how big it really is (although even then it's bigger than we realize).

So yes, there is a deeper answer than the 'standard one', but in the end it boils down to the same answer - just looked at in a deeper way. The deeper answer is exactly the same as the standard one. This is the experience of Christian mystics throughout the ages. It is why John the Evangelist concentrated so much on love, especially God's love, in his writings.

By the way, there are branches of Christianity that believe that all people will eventually come to be with God, no matter how much they may resist. Opinion is also divided onwhether human souls might be destroyed rather than condemned.

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