Take the 2-minute tour ×
Christianity Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for committed Christians, experts in Christianity and those interested in learning more. It's 100% free, no registration required.

I am asking this question from a Muslim perspective. We are told that Zubur and Injeel (Old Testament and New Testament) were revealed to Moses and Jesus just like Quran was revealed to Muhammad (PBUH). From what I understand The Bible (and lets talk about new testament only), was not revelation to Jesus but rather a collection of stories and event of Jesus time which were collected later after his death. Most importantly Bible is not a divine book and was NEVER a divine book. There is no such thing as a book revealed to Jesus. Is my understanding correct. If not in what shape or form Bible was revealed to Jesus.

Again my emphasis is, is Bible the book of revelation on Jesus. I know other people wrote it but what is it's connection directly with Jesus.

Wikipedia

Although many Western scholars[who?] believe that the Injil, in Muslim belief, was a scripture authored by Jesus, the author of the Injil was (in Muslim belief) ultimately God, in a manner similar to the way the Quran was revealed to Muhammad: that God inspired Jesus with the verbatim words of the text which were then written by Jesus' hand.[3] Muslims believe that Jesus, who had memorized the revelation, then taught it to all his disciples (al-Hawāriyūn).

Please clarify the point above. My argument is, there was no such book as Injil or new testament that was revealed to Jesus. Basically this was made up in Islam (probably because of lack of understanding) which Muslim believe to this day that the writer of Bible is God. From muslim perspective, it means only God himself revealed this directly to Jesus.

share|improve this question
3  
You should ask this question in Islam. There is lot of misconceptions about Christianity in this question: (1) Bible is not a divine book and was NEVEr a divine book.- false statement; Bible is the Word of God. (2) a collection of stories and events of Jesus - It is not stories. It is historical narratives. (3) Bible was revealed on Jesus - There is no need for this to happen as Jesus IS God (4) New testament was not a revelation from God - False statement. If you want a christian perspective please ask so. Else this question is out of scope for this site. –  Jayarathina Madharasan Jan 26 at 4:11
1  
I think it's implied that he's asking for the Christian perspective. His question states the Muslim perspective. –  mojo Jan 26 at 5:03
    
@JayarathinaMadharasan I have fixed the question. Thanks for point out the problem. –  Learner Jan 26 at 5:58

5 Answers 5

Hi and welcome to the site. Thanks for asking questions.

You are correct when you write that the New Testament was written ABOUT Jesus. It was not written by him, at least not in the sense that he put pen to paper, or dictated the words. Your quote from Wikipedia, while it may correctly describe Muslim belief, certainly does not describe Christian belief on the subject. Many parts of the New Testament were clearly not written until many years after Jesus died and ascended to heaven. If you read the New Testament you will find that many of the author's names are given in the text - for example the four Gospels (Matthew, Mark Luke and John) were written by people of that name who either knew Jesus or collected stories about him or teachings he had given, and wrote them down so they would not be forgotten. Many of the later books were in fact letters, written mainly the Apostle Paul. The letters themselves state that they are authored by Paul, and could not have been truthfully dictated by Jesus.

Where you are incorrect is in saying the the Bible is not a divine book - at least as far as Christians are concerned. Christian belief is that God caused the Bible to be written in exactly the way he wanted it, but did so through the knowledge and minds of the people who wrote it down. Christians believe that it is inspired by God and therefore infallible.

There is another sense in which you are not quite correct. Christians believe that Jesus is in fact God, at least in some sense (if you are not familiar with Christian belief in this area it's not simple enough to go into here). Because of this it is correct to say that at least in some way Jesus is the author of both the Old and New Testaments.

share|improve this answer
    
So Bible is Divine book but it did not exist at the time of Jesus and Jesus has nothing to do with it. It was only written after jesus death by other people through divine inspiration. If you can clarify that part, it is good enough for me. This would mean by Islamic standard this is not really a divine book and in fact proves my point that Bible did not exists at the time of Jesus. In otherwise, if I ask Jesus, what does this verse mean in the Bible. He would answer, "what Bible"? –  Learner Jan 27 at 5:41
    
@Learner The Old Testament was full written and existed for 400 years before Jesus came. The New Testament was written by His followers shortly after His resurrection. So God the Father and the Son know the Bible pretty well if you were to ask them. –  Steve Jan 27 at 13:56
1  
@DJClayworth I upvoted your answer, but I'm a little uneasy about your statement on Biblical infallibility. I'm not sure that all Christians accept this, and I'm not even exactly sure what you mean by it. –  Chris Sunami Jan 27 at 17:47
    
I think the answer to my question is, "It was not revealed to Jesus". Someone else wrote it after Jesus Christ death is another story. Even if it is considered divine scripture, it still was not revealed to Jesus. That's what my question is. –  Learner Jan 27 at 18:13
    
The fact that Jesus' words are recorded in these accounts suggests that a great deal of it was revealed to Jesus, because the author is just writing down what Jesus said. I would argue that Jesus words contain "what was revealed to him." –  mojo Feb 8 at 14:06

The timeline goes like this:

  1. Jesus lives, does things, says things.
  2. People hear and see it, and either remember it in their minds, or possibly write it down.
  3. Jesus dies, and his disciples start preaching the good news.
  4. Books are compiled and written about Jesus' life, actions, and words.
  5. Time passes until today, and some of the writings survived (like the Bible books Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; and the apocryphal gospels which were rejected as untrue).

So, maybe there were writings from when Jesus was alive. Similarities between Matthew and Mark suggest that there was a "Document X" that both books were based on.

Jesus promised his disciples that the Spirit will remind them of everything he said, so they could remember the facts accurately. See John 14:26 and John 16:13.

Jesus knew how to write. He was recorded as writing at least once, in John 8:6-8.

Jesus knew that his story would be told in all the world. One time, when a sinner annointed Jesus with expensive perfume, people criticized her, but Jesus rebuked them and said:

Truly I tell you, wherever the gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her.

So he foretells (and reveals his intention) that his story would be told and most likely preserved through writing. Because the best way to preserve a story was in writing. If God knew this, and if he could do it, then this is how he would have done it.

share|improve this answer

Christians claims that (what's in) the Bible was revealed to men by God. The New Testament was not written (down) by Jesus, but was written about him and what he taught by people who lived during his lifetime and knew him. Christians claim that God can speak to/inspire people through the Holy Spirit, and so the Bible is directly connected to Jesus because it came from God.

share|improve this answer

The entire Bible is inspired by God:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness

Jesus was very fluent in reading/writing scripture, yet, He in His own wisdom, thought it fit that his followers write these Gospels after his death. As such Bible through the inspiration of Holy Spirit is the revealed truth from God Himself and it includes the teachings of Jesus(who Himself is God) during His ministry which later on, inspired by Holy Spirit, were written down in four Gospels, acts and epistles by His followers. As such it is tantamount to the Word of God.

Miracles like multiplying of bread and fish, telling Peter to get the coin from the first fish that he gets to pay for their taxes, ensuring that a colt and an ass is present at a designated place for His journey to Jerusalem, ensuring that a large room is ready for His last Supper, are but few which showed that Jesus was capable of doing everything and anything.

In similar manner He could have made the Bible to come into existence during His stay on earth with single word from His mouth without even writing it, but He had a different plan. Jesus trained His disciples-all simpleton and down to earth fishermen- to face the world in such a way that they were able to write what He desired.

This was clearly told by Jesus:

John 16:12 “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. For he will not speak on his own authority, but will speak whatever he hears, and will tell you what is to come. 16:14 He will glorify me, because he will receive from me what is mine and will tell it to you.

He also says:

John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything, and will cause you to remember everything I said to you.

There was no need for God to reveal the Bible content to Jesus, as Jesus Himself was God Incarnate and as such the source of everything.

Did Jesus write any of His own scripture or contribute to the Bible directly? Yes. Very much so. Through Holy Spirit.

What we Christians have in the form of Bible is certainly the work of "Holy Trinity one God". Since all writers of Bible Books were inspired by Holy Spirit, the third person of Holy Trinity, what else could we ask from God. Whether written by Jesus or inspired by Holy Spirit is one and the same, it is Word of God.

But the next question definitely comes to mind is why four Gospels? That is answered here. But briefly:

God used human authors with different backgrounds and personalities to accomplish His purposes through their writing. Each of the gospel authors had a distinct purpose behind his gospel and in carrying out those purposes, each emphasized different aspects of the person and ministry of Jesus Christ. Yet all the four Gospels are perfectly harmonious.

share|improve this answer

The reasoning behind it is actually not too hard to come to. Nowhere is it said that Jesus wrote any of it. It was Jesus' own actions, his very self, that is considered the Injeel, not the Gospels written about him. In essence, he was/represented the Word of God, not the NT.

share|improve this answer
    
This is, of course, not the Christian perspective. –  mojo Feb 8 at 3:54
    
Welcome to the site! This next has nothing to do with the quality of your answer, it's just standard to help new visitors avoid misunderstanding the site (as I did at first.) As a new visitor, I'd recommend checking out the following two posts, which are meant to help newcomers "learn the ropes": the help page and How we are different than other sites? –  David Stratton Feb 8 at 18:01

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.