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The following verses about David and Jonathan's relationship have lead some to say their relationship was more than platonic. Is there any reason to think that was the case?

Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself. (1 Samuel 18:1, NASB)

Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul. (1 Samuel 18:3, ESV)

I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women. (2 Samuel 1:26, NIV)

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There's no reason to think so. The fact that so many people think Frodo and Sam or Sherlock and John are gay just shows how few solid examples of friendship our society has. – curiousdannii Jan 8 '14 at 11:39
The question is not well worded but the subject is one I've heard many times so... I suggest the downvoters explain why they've downvoted to help this new user. – Wikis Jan 8 '14 at 13:41
I think I missed the third verse because it's not bold - it's the only one that really suggests anything more than friendship. A question about 2 Samuel 1:26 might be appropriate for the Hermeneutics site. – curiousdannii Jan 8 '14 at 14:14
@ Deafchristian I would not have down voted your question had I noticed that you were a new user. That is not my way of welcoming new people to the site. Please accept my apology. – BYE Jan 8 '14 at 14:15
@curiousdannii Really, really good edits! – Affable Geek Jan 8 '14 at 17:39
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In your question you seem to have overlooked two very important points

1st Samuel 18:1 KJV

And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and *Jonathan loved him as his own soul. *

In the "soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David" the important point here is the word knit That word in the original was:


qashar (kaw-shar') v. 1. bind (up), (make a) conspire(-acy, -ator), join together, knit, stronger, work (treason)

In today's vernacular that would be said " that they had become Soul mates".

There are no connotations of any physical relationship the word used for such a union is:


shakab (shaw-kab') v. 1. to lie down (for rest, sexual connection, decease or any other purpose) [a primitive root] KJV: X at all, cast down, ((lover-))lay (self) (down), (make to) lie (down, down to sleep, still with), lodge, ravish, take rest, sleep, stay.

So in answer to your question is no it was not erotic.

For the record how can a person have an erotic encounter with his soul?

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Nice Cecil. Please check out who your saviour is in the third paragraph of your profile... you might want to correct that! – Wikis Jan 8 '14 at 13:42
Thanks for answering my question. – Deafchristian Jan 8 '14 at 13:56
@ Wikis Thanks for pointing out my error. that was an egregious mistake. – BYE Jan 8 '14 at 14:08

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