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In Matthew chapter 24 Jesus is describing his 2nd coming:

For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.“Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other." *Matt. 24:27-31*

He says that a loud trumpet blast will be sounded as his angels are sent to gather his elect.

Later in the New Testament, we read St. Paul describing what seems to be the same event:

According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Thess. 4:15-16

Are these 2 passages describing the same trumpet blast? It appears to me that they both include:

  1. The appearance (or reappearance) of the Son of Man.

  2. Active participation of God's angels.

  3. A trumpet blast.

I'm particularly concerned with the trumpet, which would logically be the connecting hinge of these two passages.

Also, please no dispensationalism...

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Just a question/thought, what part of or what do you mean by no Dispensationalism? It involves far more than eschatology, it's an entire framework of theology. Are you speaking of the specific form of futurist interpretation which Dispensationalism (holds to but does not have exclusive claim to)? I've found that precision is important in all eschatological discussions since there are so many views and labels. In order to discuss something we must be sure we are communicating clearly – Joshua Dec 15 '15 at 17:54
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Yes they are the same trumpet blast because during both Scriptures you have the second coming of Jesus and the resurrection.

In Matthew 24

the angels "will gather his elect from the four winds"

In 1 Thess 4:16-17

the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

May I also add it is the same as 1 Corinthians 15:51-52

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

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Ellis Skolfield claims that several passages in scripture all refer to the "last Trumpet".

  1. The Last Trumpet, 1Co 15:51‐52
  2. The Trump of God, 1Th 4:16
  3. The Great Trumpet, Mat 24:31
  4. The Great Trumpet, Isa 27:13
  5. Warriors Trumpet, Zec 9:14
  6. The Seventh Angel Rev 10:6‐7
  7. The Seventh Trumpet Rev 11:15

See http://www.slideshare.net/PulpArk/03-last-trumpet

Skolfield holds to a historicist view of prophecy, not a dispensational view. He believes that most (but not all) of the events predicted in prophecy occurred during the church age leading up to today, with a few remaining.

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+1 simply for representing the "forgotten" historicist interpretation. I'll remind myself here as well to check a historicist commentary on Revelation that I own later. – Joshua Dec 17 '15 at 21:03

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