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Jesus said:

My doctrine is not mine but his who sent me.

He who believes in me as the scriptures say will not die in his sin.

Verily, if you don't believe I am he, you will die in your sin.

I do what my Father taught me.

What doctrine supports the idea of believing in the spiritual master, or they die in their sin?

Jesus learns to become a spiritual teacher through the scripture.

What doctrine or scripture might have caused Jesus to become a spiritual teacher to forgive sin and speak about knowledge of the soul?

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Could you provide a reference (and version/translation) for the quote, please? –  Andrew Leach Aug 18 '13 at 18:22
@AndrewLeach The quote looks like an amalgamation of several statements in the Gospel of John: the first sentence comes from Jn 7:16; the second sentence seems to be a merging of Jn 7:38 and perhaps Jn 11:26; the third sentence seems to be from Jn 8:24; the last sentence might be from Jn 8:28. It is really unclear how this should be handled as a quote since even those references do not seem to precisely match the text given (e.g., no 'verily' in Jn 8:24). –  Paul A. Clayton Aug 18 '13 at 21:06
Ah! I see that Anonymous' edit incidentally merged the separate quotes into one big quote. (The block quote Markdown can be tricky.) –  Paul A. Clayton Aug 18 '13 at 21:10
Fixed that then. However, citations would still be useful. –  Andrew Leach Aug 18 '13 at 23:02
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All of the verses mentioned above are found in the New Testament, prominently in the gospel of John.

The first verse is John 7:16.

The second verse is John 8:24.

The third verse is John 8:24, the same as the second verse.

The fourth verse is John 8:28.

I must add that the scriptural evidence that indicates Jesus' desire to start his ministry of teaching and preaching rests in his 40 days spent in the wilderness. I suppose that may have given him some spiritual enlightenment or guidance from his Father, so that he is convinced that he has the authority to forgive sins and to philosophize human nature. Note that forgiving sins is thought of something that only God can do, so when Jesus thinks he can forgive sins, that may either claim that (1) he is God (which would constitute blasphemy in strict monotheistic circles), or (2) promotes a potentially heretical view that is expressed in Colossians, Ephesians, and even in the Lord's Prayer of the Gospels - that ordinary humans can forgive each other.

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Are you sure about the second quote's reference? The first part of John 7:38 ('Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."', NIV), seems closer with "streams of living ..." replaced with "will not die in his sin". As I noted in a comment, this is almost like a merging with part of John 11:26 ("...believes in me will never die...", NIV) with "never" replaced by "not" and "in his sin" added. –  Paul A. Clayton Aug 19 '13 at 19:23
All I did was copying and pasting into Google search engine, and this was the result: google.com/… I went to the fourth result, the Roman Catholic site, and tried to find the similar verse that appeared in the search engine. I think the verse is disputable. "For if you do not believe that I AM, you will die in your sins." –  Anonymous Aug 19 '13 at 23:48
Yeah, the original quotations are problematic--except for the first, they do not seem to fit precisely any of the suggested verses. John 8:24 does not have "as the scriptures say" and uses "that I am" not "in me" (it also lacks "Verily" from the 3rd 'quote'). It does not seem that the OP will declare what verses and translation are being used. (I think the OP posted a comment as an answer--soon deleted--stating that the quotes could be found by a web search, so such additional help seems unlikely.) –  Paul A. Clayton Aug 20 '13 at 0:08
I think the question is asking what Hebrew Scripture Jesus is citing when saying these things. –  Andrew Jul 18 at 20:47
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