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I've seen the uncreated God contrasted many times to the created angels, Satan, and humans, and etc. Being created is counted against the latter category as a mark of imperfection which God does not bear.

However I don't really see why being created is an imperfection. Surely something can be created and be created perfectly, right? To become perfect?

Is there a way to understand this through the bigger picture of what perfection is? Or is this something that must be understood on its own?

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Being created doesn't affect perfection as much as impassability. The doctrine of impassability states that God cannot change- that he is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. If God (or Jesus) were created then he has changed - he went from not existing to existing.

The tie in between perfection and impassability is this: if God changes, then it sets up a situation where God is not perfect. If he changed, he would, it is assumed, move to being 'perfect' from a state that was necessarily 'less than perfect.' That previous state, adherents of impassability maintain, is inconsistent with the nature of God's perfection, hence it cannot be.

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Ah it makes sense that being created is at odds with being unchanging :) –  Justin L. Jul 12 '13 at 12:29

Being created is not what makes something imperfect. Creation was created perfect by a perfect God:

And God saw everything that He had made, and behold, it was very good (suitable, pleasant) and He approved it completely. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

Genesis 1:31

If God approves it completely, it must be perfect.

But then Adam and Eve choose a path which made them imperfect. God warned them:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and blessing and calamity you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.

Genesis 2:17

but they went ahead anyway:

And when the woman saw that the tree was good (suitable, pleasant) for food and that it was delightful to look at, and a tree to be desired in order to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she gave some also to her husband, and he ate.

Genesis 3:6

Summary: their choice made them imperfect, after they were created.

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I've heard it said "Angels cannot be perfect because they were created"; is this something valid to say, or does it have no grounds? –  Justin L. Jul 12 '13 at 6:40
@JustinL.: I'm not aware of any Biblical verse stating that. The only thing that is clear to me is that some angels are not perfect (fallen). My guess is that the others (not fallen) are perfect - otherwise they could not worship God in heaven. –  Wikis Jul 12 '13 at 6:50

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The other answers all support the idea that being created is a negative attribute but I would like to point out that Christ experienced the being created processes. Philippians 2:7 says that He was made in the likeness of men. John 1:14 says he was made flesh. These are both the same Greek words which mean come into being. Marry does not pre-exits therefore Christ's body which was formed from her's did not pre-exit.

Psa 138:8 The LORD will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O LORD, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.

Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

1Co 1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Christ was made completely perfect flesh; holy and righteous, by the Father. Likewise the Father also makes perfect/mature, Holy, righteous and blameless (by virtue of unity with Christ) those who call on Him in the name of Jesus.

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I'm just trying to wrap my head around this all. If Christ was created, how could he have been there "in the beginning"? John 1:1-2 seems to imply that there wasn't a time where God was and Christ wasn't. Or did God create Christ "before the beginning"? –  Justin L. Jul 14 '13 at 6:00
@JustinL. Christ predates His body is the premise. Before he was born of Mary and the Holy Spirit he did not have a human body. That very integrated part of Him was created, it grew and it died then was resurrected and is with Him today. –  caseyr547 Jul 14 '13 at 6:05
this makes a lot of sense. maybe creation itself does not invalidate perfection. how does this fit in with the unchanging nature of Christ? –  Justin L. Jul 14 '13 at 6:36
@JustinL. we view the unchanging nature of God more about who he is rather than what he is we would be fine with God the Father growing a beard and shaving it off later or in this case becoming a man dying and leaving his body then returning for it 3 days later. –  caseyr547 Jul 14 '13 at 7:03
if Christ is really being made/coming into being/going through creation, is that not changing his nature? if it isn't, isn't the "creation" merely superficial (growing a beard) then? –  Justin L. Jul 14 '13 at 7:15

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