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It is believed by the Jews that the Messiah would redeem them, unite them and establish Kingdom of God on earth. Some Christians believe that this prophesy would be fulfilled in the second coming of Christ. How is that possible when they have already rejected Christ as Messiah in the first coming? So is there still a chance of Jesus fulfilling the Messianic prophecy for Jews in the second coming? If so, then what is the biblical basis for Jesus to fulfill the prophesy in the second coming?

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See the NT definition of who is and isn't "truly" a Jew. For example, Romans 2:17-29. Here's a multi-part message 1, 2, from John Piper on the subject. –  Philip Schaff Jun 20 '13 at 23:19
@NotMyWill-butGodsWillBedone Sorry I haven't been getting notifications today. To be honest it's still not particularly good, but you've addressed the intial close reason so I'll reopen. –  wax eagle Jun 21 '13 at 3:35
+1 because wax eagle doesnt like it i'm not much a fan of eschatology but i'll work on an answer –  caseyr547 Jun 21 '13 at 16:09

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The idea is not that all Jews will be reconciled to God, but that a remnant will repent and return to the Lord in the last days. Paul explains it this way:

(speaking of Israel:) I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? . . . But what is the divine response to him? “I have kept for Myself seven thousand men . . . .” In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God’s gracious choice. . . .

(speaking of Israel:) I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be! . . . For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? . . .

(speaking of Israel as an olive tree, and the people as its branches:) But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them . . . do not be arrogant toward the branches . . . . they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted [back] in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?

For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,

“The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.” “This is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.”

From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

In summary:

  • God has not rejected those Israelites whom He foreknew, but has kept a remnant for Himself

  • Mercy came to the Gentiles in order to make the Israelites jealous

  • Just as Israel's transgression resulted in mercy for the Gentiles, their reconciliation to God will result in life from the dead

  • If Israel does not continue in their unbelief, God will welcome them back

  • The Age of the Gentiles is temporary, and once the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, the partial hardening of Israel will be over

  • God will do all of this out of His faithfulness to the promises He made to the fathers

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Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Zec 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

Zec 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

Zec 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

Mic 1:3 For, behold, the LORD cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth. Mic 1:4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

These verses have not literally been fulfilled. According to to Zec 12:10 and Rev 1:7 not only will the Jews return to the Christ but all the earth will. All hearts everwhere will change and also the geography of Israel will change at the Lord's command. For further explanation of the effect of the return of Christ on the Jews see Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary listed below.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary Zechariah 12:9-14 The day here spoken of, is the day of Jerusalem's defence and deliverance, that glorious day when God will appear for the salvation of his people. In Christ's first coming he bruised the serpent's head, and broke all the powers of darkness that fought against God's kingdom among men. In his second coming he will complete their destruction, when he shall put down all opposing rule, principality, and power; and death itself shall be swallowed up in that victory. The Holy Spirit is gracious and merciful, and is the Author of all grace or holiness. He, also, is the Spirit of supplications, and shows men their ignorance, want, guilt, misery, and danger. At the time here foretold, the Jews will know who the crucified Jesus was; then they shall look by faith to him, and mourn with the deepest sorrow, not only in public, but in private, even each one separately. There is a holy mourning, the effect of the pouring out of the Spirit; a mourning for sin, which quickens faith in Christ, and qualifies for joy in God. This mourning is a fruit of the Spirit of grace, a proof of a work of grace in the soul, and of the Spirit of supplications. It is fulfilled in all who sorrow for sin after a godly sort; they look to Christ crucified, and mourn for him. Looking by faith upon the cross of Christ will cause us to mourn for sin after a godly sort.

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According to the NT writings the whole World has been redeemed by the death of Jesus, including Israel. The act is finished. This understanding about the redemption of all was explained by Origen c. 250.

Huffington Post May 23, 2013 "Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today (May 23, 2013) when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists."

Redemption is, of course, not the same as salvation.

Okay here is some additional explanation - it is only a quick answer. I ought to spend a week thinking it out properly.

In the NT, the Greek word for redemption means a releasing effected by payment of ransom 1a) redemption, deliverance 1b) liberation procured by the payment of a ransom

It is the price that the Redeemer paid for our release from the bondage of sin. With this payment the virtues that God withheld from the children of Adam, are now offered to all mankind. We have but to ask sincerely and deeply to receive these virtues. The two virtues are summarized as "holiness and justice." As Origen has explained, the absence of these virtues in the children of Adam, and his descendants, was like a stain on mankind. This stain is washed away by the incarnation and sacrifice of Jesus - we are "washed clean" by His blood. Redemption for us then, is a washing away of the stains that were "original sin" - a term used by the Church Fathers - St. Augustine and St. Thomas. Origen before them, and others Fathers.

This is my understanding, I am sure that a Priest or theologian could explain it better.

Salvation, on the other hand begins with a life centered on God, trusting in God, and loving God. Someone must show us how to repent, for this is to love God with all our heart mind body and soul. The Hebrew practice is Teshuva, a lifetime of improving our aim so we get closer to the mark - as Paul taught.

Jesus said: "be ye perfect, as your Father in Heaven is perfect."

Paul showed his followers how to realize The Christ within them. Jesus said to the twelve "the kingdom of God is within you."

Simply put: redemption is the price paid for the removal of the stains on us that had, until the crucifixion, prevented us from re-entering Paradise. Salvation is the process by which God makes us worthy to enter Paradise. (As the NT puts it: We must have on our wedding garments provided by God to enter the bridal chamber.)

This is a simple explanation of very complex theology, and you should do the research yourselves. My explanation is taken from Anglican Doctrine.

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could you explain what is the NT defination of redemption in the answer itself –  JesusBoughtIslam Jun 22 '13 at 2:17

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