I just want to confirm based on scripture if God made Adam and Eve with both free will and knowledge of good and evil (right and wrong) or if one came after the other when they ate the forbidden fruit?
Genesis 3 answers this question pretty definitively:
Adam and Eve were not created with the knowledge of good and evil. They were innocent--not righteous, but innocent. After they sinned, they knew both good and evil.
God knows good and evil, but not from the same perspective, as He has never committed any sin or done anything unholy.
"Adam and Eve were not created with the knowledge of good and evil. They were innocent--not righteous, but innocent." Agreed.
For Adam and Eve, a "knowledge" of Good and Evil was not imparted to them, but was their own creation.
BEFORE Eve touched the fruit, it is said, Gen.3:6 "And when the woman saw that the tree was GOOD for food, and that it was PLEASANT to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one WISE..."
Just as Eve declared 3 things to be good, namely that something could look good, feel good and be good, after the "TREE" experience they declared that some things were bad, wrong or evil. Included in list new list was being NAKED, being AFRAID, being BLAMED.
BEFORE Eve was created, God brought the animals to Adam to name. (Gen. 2:19b) This was an act of naming things that exist in physical form. The "TREE" experience was the first time that the humans started declaring or giving names to things that exist only by interpretation or as an explanation of an experience or feeling. The experience of SHAME, FEAR and FEELING BADLY were created by Adam and Eve.
The TRUTH is that the "TREE" was NOT good for food, NOT pleasant to the EYES, and was NOT to be DESIRED. Eve invented that. Made it up. On the spot. She, herself, made the tree more than it was.
The TRUTH is that after the "TREE" experience, nakedness didn't CAUSE shame, Adam didn't NEED to fear God's presence, and blame couldn't MAKE Adam feel bad. Adam invented those. Made it up. On the spot. He, himself, made the event bad and wrong.
I understand this:
Before the tree experience we describe the life of Adam and Eve as living in paradise. After the "tree" we describe their fallen state.
What happened at the tree changed everything. What happened at the tree, was that for the first time, mankind created good and evil, right and wrong.
In fact, the passage quoted is too short to derive an answer. In my opinion, you have to read Genesis from the beginning up to chapter 3:19 in order to answer the question. Here is my interpretation:
So, in the end, Adam and Eve learn to know evil by experience, not by enlightenment, and in a practical, not an abstract sense. All that is the result of their asking, out of their free will, and God's granting their request and honoring their decision.
Realizing that our understanding is limited by the written Word, we all agree that our perfect God cannot create anything that is bad. Logically, the very fact that Eve had the reasoning capacity to make a choice between God's firm commandment and Satan's beguiling ... in my opinion indicates that she was, in fact, created with free will. And Adam chose to eat of the fruit that Eve gave him innocently trusting the woman God gave him. Apparently, free will existed without the knowledge of good and evil. These series of events created the need for man's spiritual salvation since the penalty of sin is death. Any further thoughts on the free will comment?
Is there any comment about free will? Were Adam and Eve given free will to chose to eat of the tree of good and evil with understanding that God directly commanded them to not eat of it? Or were they so innocent and unknowing of evil that they were easily beguiled?
The woman had knowledge to know about the tree b4 she ate, yet the Lord say's it is about when the man has “knowledge”, that “knowing” when he “knew knowledge”, = eyes opened.
God told the man he would have knowledge if he ate, then God gave him a woman. Genesis 2:16-17 the Lord God commanded ---the man---, saying, of the tree of the ---knowledge---of good--and--evil Genesis 3:6-7 and 22 ---and--- he did eat. ---And---the eyes of them both were opened, and they---knew---that they were naked And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to ---know---good and evil
the Lord God said the man would have knowledge of evil when he ate, the serpent said God knows the woman would be knowing evil when she ate, scripture says--they--knew evil--after --the man ate, not when she ate, God says the man now knows evil, just as God had told him would happen.